Why aren't Alistar, Vayne, Viktor, Riven etc good in low elo?

Alistar tends to require your team follow up on your initiations. Since coordination is often poor at lower ELOs, that isn't always reliable.

Vayne is decent (since many won't really know how to bully you), but most don't know how to dodge skillshots or play the lane at that level either. Also, she takes a long time to really scale and many games are decided by whichever player(s) feed the most early-game.

Viktor is probably fine. A good generalist if you know how to play him.

Riven is difficult to play (and I'm probably going to be downvoted for that), so few low ELO players can actually take advantage of her kit properly. Considering she has a high skill cap and is balanced around that, she isn't a great pick unless you can play her competently.

Alistar: Low elo players can't even use the WQ combo on him even if you can just buffer it now. Most of the time they just use their w in team fight/ skirmishes every time it's off cooldown and usualy save more enemies than they help kill them.

Vayne: As long as they don't feed Vayne isn't THAT hard to play so some of them can still do something, but most of the time they just over estimate their power and engage in fights they could've easily avoided

Viktor: Laser is a unique skillshot to this champion and is harder to maser than other skillshots, and people will usualy upgrade the laser first regardless of who they are facing and even if they can't hit it.

Riven: Just like Vayne, tend to overestimate themselves and Riven is even harder to play than Vayne.

From a guy that has been in silver for 2 whole years

Because they are too mechanical for those players to learn.

Viktor not so much, but he still has a decent level of skill needed.

Why are they not good in low Elo? I've heard the opposite actually.

Alistar? lol, I go ap alistar toplane and destroy, I don't play viktor or riven though, never really fought those two in norms or ranked

Viktor's bad in low elo? I must be playing him wrong then...

Because everyone is bad in low elo. Isn't just these champions.

Low elo Alistar players will often screw up the WQ combo, launching enemies to safety and/or themselves into danger.

Positioning is 100% Vayne's thing, and low elo players tend to be terrible at positioning. Can still be played in lanes with super safe supports, since she scales really hard when fed.

Viktor has a lot of mechanical nuances and decision making.

Riven can be played in low elo, she just does a lot less damage than people that know how to use her combos and cancelling.

All except Alistar do fine in low elo. Alistar just struggles because tower diving isn't as big with randoms, and his combo is kind of like, use your abilities for peel, or engage and have your ADC try to fight 1v2 after you blow your combo.

Most vayne players dont know her limits and think they will instacarry...proceeding to feed a lot early game, rage and then stay farming in lane while the other fed carry proceeds to finish vayne´s teammates and the game. She doesnt have cheap mechanics like Jinx or Cait, so she requires fine engage judgement and when to use her windows of power like her ult, thent o reach her hyper carry status. But her key is to know the road of how to get there in the early game without being shid.

TLDR: Low elo players dont know how to carry with her and when to fight and when to not.

Yeaah umm Alistar is such an easy champion I actually don't understand why anyone would say that a bronze picking alistar is a bad idea? :l

Vayne from my experience is actually a good pick since you scale pretty well in the mid game so long as you have any ADC mechanics. If you don't, you shouldn't picking ADC in the first place.

I think they are good in low elo.. you won't have the skills to use them to the best, but the enemy won't punish you for not doing so..

vayne isn't, viktor kindof isn't

alistar and riven are op as shit in low elo

I got dumpstered in lane but ganks as Viktor earlier and I still was good. W+R is great an teamfights if your team has good setup and you have Rylai's.

It depends?

I'm a Viktor main and got out of bronze and almost silver with him, then got tired after hearing that Victorious was going to for Maokai and not Viktor this year.

It just depends how much of that champion you know, of course you aren't playing at full capacity if you pick it for the first time.

I had good Ali's before. I would love to have an Alistar again set up kills for me while building tank. Huh?

for alistar. its decision making. let me tell u what happens. alistar makes a good engage. his team has no idea what the fuck to do they back off and be like "alistar wtf is that 1v5 dive reported". even if he pings in which he should. often times they are too scared to capitalize on any play.