Where are those zyra buffs?

FOR JUSTICE·Aug 29, 2018·10 votes·6,382 views

i dont know if i missed that somewhere, but i remember riot wanting to buff her w or something?

was that ever done or cancelled? ive kinda been out of the loop a while so im wondering whats up

13 Comments

GodlyBaneAug 29, 20184 votes

please no. Zyra is already as strong as brand. NO.

RISE Shlack123Aug 30, 20181 votes

Actually Brand wins that matchup. Brand is far stronger.

SirsirAug 29, 20184 votes

Honestly I never felt her plants needed much buffing. Its not like the vast majority of her damage is tied to them, like Heimer. She has an otherwise functional kit.

If anything I would have her ult give her plants more HP, like set them to double the max.

5050BSAug 29, 20184 votes

Zyra Plants need HP buffs.

Zyra E needs Grounded added to its larger width (does not root you unless hit by the damage part)

Than maybe she would be ok midlane.

meteorbreakerAug 30, 20181 votes

I already doubt it. Its gameplay was heavily perverted in the direction of "utility support". So I think it's worth stopping chaned these plants. And to concentrate on her most, in particular about her sustain and mobility.

Daddy AntsAug 30, 20183 votes

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Zyra Plants need HP buffs.

Zyra E needs Grounded added to its larger width (does not root you unless hit by the damage part)

Than maybe she would be ok midlane.

LOL.

No.

While she's oppressive as Support she should NEVER get those buffs.

meteorbreakerAug 31, 20181 votes

Let's stop talking about the role of support. Сonstantly talking about this. Let's now talk about her primary role - mage. And here she really needs help.

Daddy AntsAug 31, 20181 votes

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Let's stop talking about the role of support. Сonstantly talking about this. Let's now talk about her primary role - mage. And here she really needs help.

Any buffs she receives will also impact her support role.

A role where she is already brand level of oppressive.

If they can find a way to buff her solo lane without making her more oppressive in the bottom lane then sure.

But until they can, she should receive no more buffs.

Brand and Zyra in my opinion are champions that should be item reliant to do their damage.

If Riot guts their base numbers but significantly increase ratios and scalings then they would both be better mid laners.

Zyra and Brand should not be able to outdamage full income carries on a role that gets limited resources and income.

RISE Shlack123Aug 30, 20182 votes

No no no no no

Zyra is one of my top 3, and even I'll tell you buffing her is a horrible idea. She is already very oppressive, and before Brand and Fiddle came to support, she used to be the queen of poke damage (though I suppose she still is the queen, but I digress).

Point is, Zyra buffs would be a horrible idea. The other champs that do tons of damage need nerfs. This damage creep has gotten way out of hand as it is.

theChibiTinaAug 31, 20181 votes

I agree. Especially because I have actually been taking her mid and doing just fine with her. It's other champions having access to to much damage that's the problem. Zyra absolutely does not need buffs. If she gets buffs then she'll be to strong and then gutted. I don't want that as I like her the way she is now.

Noor SakataAug 29, 20183 votes

I don't think they will buff her , especially that she had a high pickrate and winrate 2 patches ago , and she was seen a lot in pro play , sadly since she was played in pro play , it doesn't seem like she will get any buffs , unless she gets a new skin lol

Killer of Night9Aug 29, 20182 votes

They just end up buffing his E by 0,25 s at all rank. The W change has been change into that. Buffing zyra plant could not be a good decision mostly because A she can spam it and B they can be spawned far away from her. Heimerdinger/malzahar gameplay are balanced around their minion (same as zyra) but heimer can place turret only on his foot and malzahar has a low range of casting and his void are melee. Zyra has a good range of casting and their plants has a high range too.

Summonah12369Aug 29, 20181 votes

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They just end up buffing his E by 0,25 s at all rank. The W change has been change into that. Buffing zyra plant could not be a good decision mostly because A she can spam it and B they can be spawned far away from her. Heimerdinger/malzahar gameplay are balanced around their minion (same as zyra) but heimer can place turret only on his foot and malzahar has a low range of casting and his void are melee. Zyra has a good range of casting and their plants has a high range too.

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