If a build is working really well for me is it still bad?

Hammermancer··2 votes·3,759 views

seriously

So i recently started picking up item 3004 again on my main because my buddy wanted me to be the adc and i didn't want to

so like I've been going manamune into triforce then cleaver botrk and stormrazor which is so many wasted stats but it's working and i'm somehow able to buy that much shit in my games on my alt, do i continue on or no?

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Jerry SeinfeId4 votes

Garen item 3078 item 3147 ain't nobody stopping me.

Hammermancer2 votes

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Garen item 3078 item 3147 ain't nobody stopping me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgzGwKwLmgM

Death by Glamour2 votes

you be you my friend

MrFawknSunshine1 votes

what champ are u building it on ?

Hammermancer1 votes

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what champ are u building it on ?

Jayce

item 3043 item 3071 item 3078 item 3149 item 2422 on and i last item either item 3033 item 3022 or item 3095 based on enemy comp

can burst squishies and sustain damage-kite against juggernauts and tanks, plus a lot of hp to help with burst

I'm using His W to proc press the attack and get triple manamune botrk procs

MrFawknSunshine4 votes

back in the day item 3070 rush was common on jayce, but this was in other metas where the games were longer. so all in all its not bad if you can proc and get the stacks.

as far as triforce and black cleaver this is a no no . you are paying twice for a passive that only works once. item 3044 . pick one or the other. typically per armor pen/lethality jayce is meta. so item 3142 is good on him

his most common build items are item 3142 item 3147 item 3071 item 3026

but you are playing him "BOT" "ADC" so getting bork is ok but its better vs teams with alot of high HP targets. if vs no tanks then i would go into lethality. it will make your burst alot stronger.

and if vs no tanks if you can opt for TRI but black cleaver is usually the better option and the right option vs tanks.

Tegash1 votes

I personally prefer to go item 3071 item 3025 item 3072 when I'm not doing the Lethality artillery BS. It's an old fashioned build but it gives hella stats and survivability. Though these days item 3812 is probably a better lifesteal choice since it also makes you faux tankier, and gives more damage with Transcendence.

Hammermancer1 votes

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I personally prefer to go item 3071 item 3025 item 3072 when I'm not doing the Lethality artillery BS. It's an old fashioned build but it gives hella stats and survivability. Though these days item 3812 is probably a better lifesteal choice since it also makes you faux tankier, and gives more damage with Transcendence.

That makes me miss when item 3053 wasn't effectively removed from my item pool unless i need it last item

If item 3161 item 3005 come out though we could have a item 3071 item 3161 item 3812 item 3005 build that might be fairly solid, it works in blitz pretty well but hey blitz doesn't really 1 for 1 transfer to SR and it would really depend on the final gold cost when adjusted cause item 3071 item 3812 aint cheap

Nhifu1 votes

It's cheap and it works, why not. Just don't be those noob players that recall with a full mana load out and wonder why they are losing lane.

1st recall - item 3070 item 3024 item 3111 Why am I losing lane? LOL

Cats Are Food1 votes

If it works for you, then it is not bad.

I can't get a phantom dancer to work on Darius, but I'll be damned if pro Koreans don't use it to wreck people.

I run T'Force and Statikk Shiv on Miss Fortune because it fits MY play style with her.

Illabethe1 votes

There's nothing wrong with a item 3004 if a champ has several things:

  1. Low CD spammables (Like Jinx's W, Cait's Q, Jayce's Q)
  2. If it doesn't impede natural important parts of your kit.
  3. Some single target ability that results in an attack status.

I personally use it on builds for: Pyke MissFortune in certain occasions, because both actually do have viable competency with it (MF can dual Tear build and outdamage a lot of pure lethality builds, and an Iceborne makes for a really strong initial item on her vs tank lanes, and Post Lethality, Pyke can go item 3078 item 3110 , which results in about a 92 AD Muramana on him, and his Q procs Muramana, as do any auto attacks)

Yago1 votes

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seriously

So i recently started picking up item 3004 again on my main because my buddy wanted me to be the adc and i didn't want to

so like I've been going manamune into triforce then cleaver botrk and stormrazor which is so many wasted stats but it's working and i'm somehow able to buy that much shit in my games on my alt, do i continue on or no?

You're not obligated to play how other people want you to play. Play what you enjoy and perfect it.

There are strengths and weaknesses to deviant builds. If you are willing to play around that you can usually perform just as well if not better than you can with a meta build.

chipndip11 votes

Aight, here's the deal: Do you want to just jerk off and have fun, or are you concerned with your performance?

If you're just concerned with dicking around in a normal game, then odds are people will only care that your build sucks when you're making the normal game not fun (when you're feeding or when the game's close but your build's awful).

If you're concerned with improving, then yes your build is awful and you need to ween yourself off of it and start working on mana management so you can deal with Jayce's mana issues without having to detour your power spikes, build items with redundant effects, or waste a SHIT TON of gold on a very early game oriented champion.

Depends on what you want out of your experience in this game.

Rock MD1 votes

Bad is objective. Objectively, the build is bad.

But part of what makes builds work is comfort and performance. You'll perform better on a build you're comfortable with than one you're not on.

If the build gives you better performance, use it when you need/want to. I would recommend getting better with the real build though since it just gives you a lot more mileage.

Hügö1 votes

Why stop when it works? The only time people will say something against it is when they lose, but they would find something else to blame anyway.

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