Guess we can enjoy Ziggs vs. Orianna for Season 5 Midlane.

Chris Chiaki··1 votes·1,476 views

Since every assassin/playmaker champion is going to gutted.

Ahri Syndra Zed Fizz Akali Annie

Fine with me, I love farming for 30 minutes with no kill pressure and stalling games out to 50 minutes with muh waveclear. Season 4 was amazing when Nidalee and Ziggs dominated midlane.

I suppose those Gold V ADC's mains (who blamed champions instead of their own inability to climb the ladder) can finally get to Challenjour.

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Abyssphere6 votes

I don't know if you've been paying attention but the whole "mana regen completely destroyed" thing says no to endless waveclearing in mid lane. Stalling out the lane endlessly isn't going to happen, nerfed assassins or not.

DrCyanide1 votes

Well.... stalling out might happen, but for different reasons.

Orianna - Crap, I don't have enough mana to clear the wave and counter attack if Ziggs comes in at me. I guess I'll just have to last hit with auto attacks. Ziggs - Every 12 seconds I get an empowered auto attack. Weaker than a bouncing bomb, but I can't waste mana on that. I can use it to last hit or I can try and poke Orianna with it... and there's a cannon minion!

Chris Chiaki1 votes

Last game morellos gives you almost 20 MP/5, add on blue buff and you have tonnes of mana to spam at your disposal.

AtheosisX1 votes

Hmm...the rise of Malzahar then? ;)

CalciferHowel3 votes

Fizz gains more fight and engage potential. Annie is now safer and Tibbers doesn't get blown up for nothing, as well as gets a speed boost.

Yes, what terrible gutting they suffered.

Edit: Oh, and that Zed nerf of attack speed, so amazingly detrimental.

DanofDemacia1 votes

what they made a change to annie?

X8ViEhkPS02 votes

They lowered the stats on her shield by 10 per rank. But if she summons Tibbers and she has the shield active, he gains the shield as well and a speed boost.

DanofDemacia1 votes

Riot is so damn stupid. That doesn't help her or tibbers. After you summon him hes useless outside of pushing and keeping people away. Does she also gain the movement speed or just him. They didnt touch her percents or base damages right?

X8ViEhkPS01 votes

Only the shield was lowered, and only Tibbers gets the speed boost. It also happens to be a decaying speed boost.

I think this is more of a buff to support Annie since Molten Shield deals damage and is fairly strong against people. You know who auto attack

DanofDemacia1 votes

I honestly don't see it as anything. Like those 10 points and armor and mag resistance aren't gonna make difference. And the hole tibbers thing is going to be useless. So overall i'm just glad they didn't do to her what the did to ahri.

X8ViEhkPS01 votes

I wouldn't be surprised if these get reverted. Because they do absolutely nothing. It isn't adding any depth. It isn't adding anything to her gameplay. There isn't any extra decision making involved.

DanofDemacia1 votes

Exactly the way they were talking about changing her made it sound like they were taking away her burst and giving tibbers sustained damage. But instead they gave him a "shield" and some movement speed. This isn't compensation for the dfg removal but i'm not gonna complain because i don't trust riot to compensate right now.

KidSpectre1 votes

Annie's a playmaker now?

CalciferHowel1 votes

As a support, maybe.

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