Can we make one addition to Garen's (crappy) rework?

Noraver··3 votes·787 views

If you kill a champion, can we make it so EVERYONE sees the gigantic explosion? Right now it's just Garen and the enemy that dies.

God forbid you give Garen a kind of one second "distraction" in a fight that effects peoples' vision (Like Graves Smokescreen, Noc ult, etc). You took away literally everything good about his kit, so can we just finally make this happen please?

7 Comments

EvilMerodach1 votes

Still has silence on AA, still has defense steroid, still has spin2win, still has execute ultimate. Wat exactly was the 'everything' you speak of?

Gigahappytown2 votes

{quoted}

Still has silence on AA, still has defense steroid, still has spin2win, still has execute ultimate. Wat exactly was the 'everything' you speak of?

buddy the best garen player NA said the change was terrible

EvilMerodach1 votes

Ok, so he's under-tuned, according to a guy who hasn't played him in on live. (Even if he's played him on PBE, PBE people don't play for realzies, so, hard to judge strength of a champion) Under-tuned does not mean they took things away from his kit, it just means things already in his kit may need buffed, maybe.

Even pros make mistaken first impressions. The new true damage stuff looks pretty strong to me, it's just a matter of it being actually useful or not in a real game.

Noraver2 votes

Duration of silence on Q reduced by half. CC reduction removed from his defensive steroid. Forced to put 5 points into his W early now, or else you're only getting 10 armor and MR from it (which you don't even get instantly; you have to farm it) Slows himself by 20% while spinning toward people. 200 base health removed from his kit, so he's squishier overall. Regen on passive reduced. Crit chance on his E removed.

See the difference now?

kJs2 votes

He lost: Crit benefits (massive damage reduction) Tenacity (the only way he could keep chasing and escape CC)

Nerfed his W overall. E is nerfed heavily. R sort of makes up for it for becoming true damage.

What he needs is: "Upon successful execution Demacian Justice blinds all targets within an 800 radius for 2 seconds." or "Upon successful execution Demacian Justice emanates damage dealing no less than 10% of the damage dealt and no more than 95% of the damage dealt as magic damage in a 500 radius around the executed target. Closer targets receive greater damage." or "Upon successful execution Demacian Justice attempts to execute all nearby enemy units after one second dealing 50% of the first execution in a 450 radius as magic damage. Subsequent successful executions, from the same cast, attempt to execute all nearby from the 2nd execution targets dealing 50% of previous execution damage after 1 second of successful execution of the previous execution dealing physical damage. This effect can self-perpetuate."

Gigahappytown1 votes

{quoted}

He lost: Crit benefits (massive damage reduction) Tenacity (the only way he could keep chasing and escape CC)

Nerfed his W overall. E is nerfed heavily. R sort of makes up for it for becoming true damage.

What he needs is: "Upon successful execution Demacian Justice blinds all targets within an 800 radius for 2 seconds." or "Upon successful execution Demacian Justice emanates damage dealing no less than 10% of the damage dealt and no more than 95% of the damage dealt as magic damage in a 500 radius around the executed target. Closer targets receive greater damage." or "Upon successful execution Demacian Justice attempts to execute all nearby enemy units after one second dealing 50% of the first execution in a 450 radius as magic damage. Subsequent successful executions, from the same cast, attempt to execute all nearby from the 2nd execution targets dealing 50% of previous execution damage after 1 second of successful execution of the previous execution dealing physical damage. This effect can self-perpetuate."

E DAMAGE IS HIGHER the 20% slow is whats making it shit What he needs is the self-slow removed the silence given scaling again and w needs to be scrapped or returned to live.

Matezoide1 votes

Dude.

Literally all those things you mentioned are objectively weaker than before outside of Ult.

Silence is way shorter.

Defensive steroid is much weaker and needs him to farm. And he doesnt get Tenacity anymore.

Spin2Win slows Garen if he is hitting an enemy champion.

More from Gameplay

More by Noraver