How is it Fiora feels insane from early laning to late game, yet still loses games all the time?

Hexs Fortune··2 votes·1,620 views

It's becoming a thing in my experience where a fiora on the opposing team has an amazing KDA and is tilting everyone, yet somehow loses the game in the end.

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Weiner the Pooh2 votes

Her lack of team fight potential in a team fight game. Working as intended.

Hexs Fortune1 votes

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Her lack of team fight potential in a team fight game. Working as intended.

She has plenty of team fight potential. Scoring Aces for days, despite losing in the end somehow.

Critmaster Garen2 votes

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She has plenty of team fight potential. Scoring Aces for days, despite losing in the end somehow.

she sucks ass in teamfights. if you dont manage to lock her down and kill her, your teamcomp is either shit or you lack coordination. a single riposte isnt enough for her to survive long enough in a 5on5 to really be useful most of the time.

if whatever target she ults gets peel, shes not getting her ult off in most cases either.

also, picking fiora hurts your teamcomp when it comes to larger fights. you have 1 more carry on your team that needs support and doesnt provide utility or can act as a frontliner. its one more reason you can beat her by grouping.

ive seen fioras get somewhat fed early game and then she and her team got completely rolled over by a decent teamfight comp midgame.

shes a really good split pusher, and strong in small skirmishes, but she doesnt fit into every team. the other players have to form a teamcomp around having a second adc on the team, if they want to win 5on5's.

Hexs Fortune1 votes

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she sucks ass in teamfights. if you dont manage to lock her down and kill her, your teamcomp is either shit or you lack coordination. a single riposte isnt enough for her to survive long enough in a 5on5.

if whatever target she ults gets peel, shes not getting her ult off in most cases either.

also, picking fiora hurts your teamcomp when it comes to larger fights. you have 1 more carry on your team that needs support and doesnt provide utility or can act as a frontliner. its one more reason you can beat her by grouping.

ive seen fioras get somewhat fed early game and then she and her team got completely rolled over by a decent teamfight comp.

I see where you are coming from, but to be fair fiora is currently building tankier than most other melee carries.

Shahamut1 votes

He's right though. I played a game as Fiora, went 8/0, took multiple towers. I could 1v2 anyone on the enemy team. But my team was Not doing nearly as well... my team was losing fights 4v2... because I would get 3 just for me. All of the c.f.. Tried grouping first, but with no support, it didn't matter how fed I was.

Queš2 votes

Nah,she cant lose that game.She wins even if she is 0-10.god bless her justified scaling.

Dasdi961 votes

It is because the player chases kills instead of objectives.

Escheton1 votes

Shut down gold and one sided gold distribution. Doolists tends to get all the kills. Because she dools so well. So after she kills your midlaner and adc in a dive and give up another 900 gold its a strange 4v3. Where the 4 seem to have the advantage and push it, only to find that Doolist has all the team gold and so they lose the fight. And subsequently start to tilt. Whereas the other team is pushing objectives while everyone is dead. Doolist goes to splitpush, because noone can fight her. Tank shows up to do nothing but delay her a bit from taking inhib while Doolist loses game because she can't join the teamfight.

Hexs Fortune1 votes

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Shut down gold and one sided gold distribution. Doolists tends to get all the kills. Because she dools so well. So after she kills your midlaner and adc in a dive and give up another 900 gold its a strange 4v3. Where the 4 seem to have the advantage and push it, only to find that Doolist has all the team gold and so they lose the fight. And subsequently start to tilt. Whereas the other team is pushing objectives while everyone is dead. Doolist goes to splitpush, because noone can fight her. Tank shows up to do nothing but delay her a bit from taking inhib while Doolist loses game because she can't join the teamfight.

This actually did happen in one of the games. So split pushing when you have all your teams gold is a bad idea after all.

KoKoboto1 votes

Fiora just needs to avoid teamfights unless her team is good at them and can help set her up. She doesnt have the same mobility as Yi or Riven, the same instant WAPOW dead mobility. Also she doesn't have Tryndamere ult and she doesn't have Yasuo wombo ult windwall and she doesn't have Jax resistance boost dodge all auto attacks.

I think she has a really easy time tower diving tho so just tower dive with her. TOWER DIVE TOWER DIVE TOWER DIVE

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Emerald Fang1 votes

Because she's NOT AS GOOD AS EVERYONE SAYS. She can't carry teamfights because she is a Yasuo without any AoE dmg on her Q. She focuses on singling enemies out but if everyone is clustered together she can't do shit.

An Enemy Sutando1 votes

She suffers from what I like to call "LeBlanc syndrome."

It's fairly easy to snowball with her, but winning games is difficult unless you're truly good with her.

grug1 votes

shitty macro play ie bad rotations shit like that.

fiora has an insane splitpush that usually requires more than 2 people to deal with, if fiora's team realise this then they will ward well and play cautious but usually fiora's team just ARAMs it in a disadvantaged 4v5 and get flanked pretty much how ever other splitpusher loses the game except for maybe tryndamere.

King of Demons1 votes

Games are more than just having a strong champ?

She sucks at teamfighting. Or her carry could get caught, losing the game

There are a million reasons why you lose a game

Hexs Fortune1 votes

You guys probably have a point about the team fighting weakness. She is so frustrating in lane, only to consistently falter heavily afterwards

Hexs Fortune1 votes

She can only hit one target at a time and most of her dmg is from hitting vitals, which probably becomes more difficult in situations with multiple enemies

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