Aside from shroud, what else is strong on Akali?

After3perma··2 votes·1,026 views

She lacks proper waveclear even at rank 5 Q. Using two Q’s costs her her entire energy bar. Her Q requires her to get into almost melee range which is extremely hard to do come late game.

Her E is strong but it is not one of the best abilities in the game. It’s funny how she can use E while someone is teleporting to fly to the other side of the map with a hilarious animation. I think her E needs to work like a Lee Sin Q where she has to get into range.

Her ultimate has a long cooldown at all ranks including with ultimate hunter. There is a 2.5 second delay after using the first part of her ultimate.

Other champions can do the same damage or more easier than Akali can.

All I see is Akali shroud complaints. If Riot gut her shroud, then she will become a very weak champion in my opinion.

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Smokin Penguin2 votes

Here is why people have a big problem with her W and kit  

  1. It invalidates ganks

You want to gank her welp sucks to be you buddy because all she needs to do is press W and that's it your gank failed and you might be tempted to say well Zed can invalidate ganks with his W as well, while that is true the thing about his W is that it's Zed's only escape/disengage and that's it and if he W's away you can still see him and target him or even chase him down.

But when it comes down to ganking Akali there isn't much you can do after she uses her W or should i say there is no point continuing the gank because not only are you unable to see her you aren't even able to reveal her not only that the shroud expands and covers more ground and on top of that she also has 3 dashes if you ever decide to go all in on her if all goes to hell she always has an escape/disengage at the ready.

And if you say well just wait until she uses W well she still has E and if she uses both of these she is in a safe spot and you can't get to her either way... Unless you are Camille and you still try to gank her to just have her Ult away to safety again. And sure you got her ult but who cares because good akali players will play safer if their ult isn't up.   2. it's frustrating to play against her mainly because Akali mains know that mages shit on her mid so they choose to go top because most top laners are melee and when she is played top lane she bullies every melee champion the same way teemo bullies melees.

  • She pokes them with her Q and auto which does so much early
  • If you try to turn and engage on her she uses W and E or if the Akali thinks that you can kill her and she is level 6 she can just ult away to safety which makes it extremely annoying and frustrating to play against her.
  • And to top it off she has great engage either with her E or her Ult which has a short stun and if you're about to say yeah but it's so short that it doesn't even matter, it does matter and landing the stun can mean the difference between you living and dying because let's say you are running in a straight path and she lands that stun now you have stopped moving which means that now whoever is with her can also catch up and close the distance because you have now stopped moving.  

3 . This is the main issue people have with her and that is that her W gives her stealth even under YOUR turret i can understand giving her stealth vs pink wards and  item 3364 but i will never understand why they would give her the ability to remain invisible and untargetable even under your turret...  

##TL;DR: Please read it, i spent some time writing this. And yes i rambled a little but what you gotta do it happens but either way have a good day!

VolatileAkali1 votes

No as an Akali mains it's so true. All of it especially the "Mages shit on her.", that's why Akali is strong at top with good match ups like old Akali but shit at mid lane again like old Akali.

UnHoIy1 votes

She lacks proper waveclear even at rank 5 Q. Using two Q's costs her her entire energy bar. Her Q requires her to get into almost melee range which is extremely hard to do come late game.

Not really, her Q is buffed at max rank against minions, and should typically be the first skill you max anyway. Other melee champs have to get in melee range to clear waves, and do so very successfully. The key is positioning and timing. She isn't meant to be an AOE machine. Also, her shroud restores energy. If you're using her kit efficiently, you'll be able to drop 3 Qs within a few seconds of each other to clear a wave.

Her E is strong but it is not one of the best abilities in the game. It's funny how she can use E while someone is teleporting to fly to the other side of the map with a hilarious animation. I think her E needs to work like a Lee Sin Q where she has to get into range.

I disagree, Akali's E is among the best abilities in the game, partly because of the mechanics you mentioned. If you get marked by her E, she can follow you anywhere There is no escaping her unless you wait for the mark to fall off. It is also very useful for getting out of the circle to proc the empowered attack from her passive. Then you can either smack with a quick Q then E back in to attack, or vice versa. Either way, paired with Gunblade, a full energy combo from her at 6 should be enough to drop almost any non-tank opponent.

Her ultimate has a long cooldown at all ranks including with ultimate hunter. There is a 2.5 second delay after using the first part of her ultimate.

The 2.5 second delay is a bit rough, and I'd argue that there should potentially be a reduction in that time. That said, after 30 or so games with her recently I can confidently say that if you are using her kit properly, the cd/delay is actually relatively balanced. Using R to engage and blow a full combo, then execute or R back out of an engagement is usually fairly successful, except where there are silences/roots/stuns dropped on you without something like banshees veil.

Other champions can do the same damage or more easier than Akali can.

Her kit is designed to make her balanced against other champions. She has high mobility and high burst damage. The biggest threat to Akali is stuns/roots/silences. Barring those, she is a devil to deal with as a squishy, and making her damage any more accessible than it already is would be overkill.

All I see is Akali shroud complaints. If Riot gut her shroud, then she will become a very weak champion in my opinion.

No one is proposing to gut her shroud, only to impose the same limitations on it as any other invisibility. The problem people have with her shroud is that she is invisible to true sight in such a way that makes it so she can functionally fight under tower without holding tower aggro as long as the shroud is up. Taking this away takes away some of her strength, but ultimately, I don't think it will make her any less viable as an assassin than she already is. Her ban rate in high-level play is insane because of her shroud.

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