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The Whamboozler6 votes

My off meta strat is to spend 15 minutes feeding the enemy adc as morde, and then ult-kill them to get a hold of a boss-ass OP fed adc ghost. I dunno why my team keeps reporting me. It's worked like... twice!

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

LMAO apparently no else finds this funny or entertaining [slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

Malicious Metal1 votes

A valid strategy.

The Whamboozler1 votes

OMG, it's the real deal. I've been replied to by a genuine boards celebrity!

[zombie-nunu-hearts]

Mecha MaIphite3 votes

Playing off meta picks and creating an off meta strategy are two entirely different things. Specifically, off meta strategies can cause problems when it forces your team to accommodate you.

It's no different from a big baby of an adc demanding that the entire team build and play around himself. While it's not necessarily bad to try new strategies, doing so means that you have to accept that not everyone is comfortable with drastically altering their play style.

Brascus1 votes

Is that fear of change or being entrenched in complacency? I don't want change I just got comfortable with how things work?

The meta is always changing but some get really aggravated by those pioneering that change.

Mecha MaIphite4 votes

There are shifts in which champions are strong in which roles, and shifts in entire play styles. An example of the latter would be something like double jungle or duo top.

Nobody cares (or at least nobody should care) if you play something weird in a preexisting role, but fundamentally shifting how the game is played is a different story. It's alright in norms because they're norms, but in solo ranked, it's the equivalent of asking someone to first time a champ.

IcyPepper2 votes

Meta breaking is fun and all, but you still have to be considerate.

Still, swings both ways. I think we've all seen at least once where the ADC flames the support (one example, jeez, it's not always that way) and the support decides to support a different lane past the laning phase.

In other words, as a team game we all need to be considerate of each other, and not expect other people to bend over backwards every time.

Brascus2 votes

"I want to queue up for my god damn role, with my god damn main, with the same god damn meta I played last game!"

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Martensitic2 votes

Are you that good, that you can invent new things?

Tell me, how many new things, that worked and were adapted by a wider audence, have you brought into this game? Because, your name doesn't ring a bell with me.

Oh wait, you haven't? You just played the things others played before you?

Well then, I think your rant just fell apart.

Frightning3 votes

Just because you weren't the first to do it, doesn't mean it isn't effective, or that you aren't 'ahead of the crowd' I was playing bot lane aggressively back in season 2 for about 3 months before that way of playing bot lane became meta. I wasn't the first, but I was ahead of the meta shift (for those who weren't around in the early days, bot lane in season 1 was a last hitting contest, there was no trading in lane what so ever because heals and shields>amount of damage you had to trade/poke with, that changed as healers got nerfed out of broken af land, but the meta was slow to adapt).

Martensitic1 votes

Just because you weren't the first to do it, doesn't mean it isn't effective,

Way to miss the point buddy, congratulations.

The point is, OP was complaining about people not accepting players "inventing new playstyles". If its ben tried before, and proven to work, then you are not "inventing" you are using something someone else did. There is nothing wrong with that, but that's not the topic of this conversation.

Next time, when you make a comment to me, make it about the topic.

Frightning3 votes

You missed my point: New strategies are not invented by any one person so much as they are tried by some, and if those few find success they repeat it, and due to exposure, others will start trying it, etc. That's how meta's change, people find things that work by experimenting, others see the successes, and then gradually start adopting what they see working (or adapting it to other roles/champions/etc.), and the way the game is played changes because of it.

I was perfectly on topic in saying what I said, you just didn't recognize that it was. By the way, I did decide on my own to try and play bot lane aggressively back then, not because I saw others do it, but because I had deduced that it was advantageous to deny my enemy by zoning them off the CS and ruining their farm, and that I could do so by positioning aggressively and punishing them every time they tried to CS. It was an invention by me, but others also invented it on their own (and I can only assume some did so before I did). So I was a part of the small number of players that had figured out a new strategy, which proved to be better than the existing meta, so it replaced the existing meta. If the new strat isn't better than the meta, but also isn't worse than it, then it may or may not 'take off' and even if it does, is unlikely to fully replace the old meta.

Also, most of the time, the people that come up with new things that eventually enter the meta aren't people whose names you'll recognize. You might know if someone popularized a particular thing (ex: OMG Cool making Syndra meta in NA by dumpstering TSM w/ her back in season 3 worlds. (This game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Qc81rqma428&t=19271 ) I was also among those playing her before that happened, btw. I knew she was good just from reading her kit when she was released and had gotten around to getting her and starting to learn her by the time that happened), but you won't know of the many other people who were there, doing the same things across various elos and servers. The OP's rant is actually pretty on-point: people do have a tendency to hate on anyone who doesn't do the meta things, without seeming to stop and ask themselves: "Does it actually make sense?" Most people seem to ascribe to the incorrect idea that the meta=what is good in the game. The reality is that the meta is: What people are playing (which usually is a subset of what is good; that is, there are things that aren't being played that are actually good).

Brascus1 votes

Hey man, you can achieve your dreams, I believe in you!

Troll for Trump3 votes

What if I told you the person playing offmeta was the one being an ass

Friendly Ram1 votes

Mantheon support pisses off hat lady so well. might not be the best idea but anything that allows me to annoy her is fine by me.

Frightning2 votes

Panth support is busted af with high burst ADCs (read Lucian, Graves, etc.)

Friendly Ram1 votes

Mf adc wit panth support is my fav.

Frightning1 votes

Yea that does seem pretty great, panth W into, eat MF ult+panth E...ouch

Sir Fuzzi1 votes

Yeah, League's playerbase has been legendary shit since League dropped. It's only gotten worse in the time I've been around.

Sun Wu Ryuumoku1 votes

off strat... lmao i would be happy to see this. Don't know why this board seems so worked up about this, this dosn't really concern most of u.

Hige1 votes

I couldn't agree more with that gif

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