One item the game kind of needs...

Linna Excel·Oct 25, 2016·2 votes·342 views

One item I think LOL needs right now is a big AD/AS item. Let me explain. First you've got TF. While this is a very good item overall, it's also got a little bit of everything in it. In that regards, it's not really focused on AD/AS even though it has both, but I do think it has a good AS. Then we've got BORK. It's a similar problem in that it is low AD and decent AS, a lot of it's gold cost is locked up in the passive and active effects. Also, it's bad right now.

What I'd like to see is something with about 75 AD and 40% AS and some smaller passive effect that would make sense for the item. Ideally it'd be intended for champs like shyvana (particularly if she's going to leave the jungle again), Vayne, Cait, an alternate vi build based on proccing her W, maybe kindred, and champs like that. I know LOL doesn't have a ton of champs that scale off of AD and AS, but there are a few of them out there.

5 Comments

Raiku KawisaOct 25, 20161 votes

At which point it will become a core mustbuy item on every adc that is not jhin

Linna ExcelOct 25, 20161 votes

I'm not sure about that because ADC item slots are pretty filled up as it is. Most want crit items and a zeal item or two early.

Raiku KawisaOct 25, 20161 votes

They want AD and they want AS. There is a reason a good number of adc items only give one or the other. Blade of the Ruined King has been gutted to the point where you only buy it if there are 5 mega tanks on the enemy team.

RebonackOct 25, 20161 votes

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They want AD and they want AS. There is a reason a good number of adc items only give one or the other. Blade of the Ruined King has been gutted to the point where you only buy it if there are 5 mega tanks on the enemy team.

Most ADCs don't want that much attack damage, at least not if they're auto-attack reliant.

If we talking raw stat efficacy, once you have more than 120 attack damage or so crit is most cost effective at boosting auto-attack power than AD.

A big AD/IAS item would be a decent concept if you want more tower-busting potential and less champ-popping strength. Something like the OLD Black Cleaver would work. Shred flat armor OnHit. Make it work on towers.

DeathBurstOct 25, 20161 votes

This topic comes back every once in a while, but no, we don't need a "big AD+AS" item.

There are two reasons to want AD: either a/ you basic attack a lot, or b/ your abilities have AD scalings.

Case a1/: you are an ADC, and you have plenty of AS+Crit items. Case a2/: you are a melee champion, and you can use AS+on-hits items like BotRK or Wit's End. Either way, your needs are covered, and you don't need an AD+AS item.

Case b/: you don't need AS, so you don't need an AD+AS item. Go check the Assassins items.

For instance, you mention a Vi's build centered around procing W. But then, BotRK is good, you're only losing a bit of damage on the Q, compared to real AD. Same for Shyvana, her only skill with an AD scaling that doesn't also benefit from on-hits is her W, and it's a weak scaling at that.

You can make the case that BotRK or Wit's End are too weak right now, but then we need to buff them, we don't need to add a new item with a different kind of stats.