Aatrox needs a buff

Düff McWhalen·Mar 4, 2019·11 votes·4,570 views

Removing the second charge on his dash has completely destroyed his playability and ability to deliver his damage. The damage nerfs were perfectly acceptable, but you went WAY too far when you removed his second dash charge.

Edit: Also, his Q animation is WAY too slow, AND worst of all, he doesn't heal unless he has while other champions can heal off minions WAY more than he ever could. He gets blown up as a Fighter>Diver. He can't stick to his targets despite having 3 knock ups, a root, and a dash because they are all so horribly implemented with how slow and easily avoidable they are. He can no longer sustain himself, a main gimmick that was supposed to be retained.

19 Comments

Fear the KaynMar 4, 20197 votes

Won't happen because professional players will start babyraging all over the place and we can't let professional players become upset.

In all honestly yea he needs his double dash back hes garbage right now. I think he still has one of the lowest winrates in the game.

Neko SirenMar 5, 20196 votes

Posting this on all the Aatrox threads for visability!

Aatrox

Who on here can actually deliver the damage he's supposed to without outside help or major cc on your target?

Who here is able to be effective in team fights outside of your ult?

Does Riot play test ANYTHING themselves before it goes live? Aatrox is in a terrible state.

His cast time is so slow and telegraphed that he can't combo his Q's without a hard stun already on his target, can just be walked out of.
His dash only has one charge meaning he's completely fucked if he goes in, and he can't follow up without that second charge on further Q's, especially the 3rd as it's a straight circle and the hit box is worse than the two previous. Again, can just be walked out of with little effort or worry.
His Chain is slow to apply, and easily walked. out. of.
his ult is not instant, fears minions, but otherwise does no damage upon activation, and he can die mid cast from burst. It's again, way too telegraphed for how slow it is and easily kited and baited.
Less base health than fucking
Itemization revolves around to have barely any ability to live. His base damage and scaling are easily mitigated with (What litle of it he can actually hit you with)

What is he supposed to be good for now? Why would anyone ever pick this champion outside of support? Oddly enough, I've had more luck taking him bot as support since there he has HELP and can afford to all in a bit and build tanky. I run Grasp and self healing runes from Domination to great effect. This is messed up Riot. FIX HIM.

Düff McWhalenMar 4, 20195 votes

Furthermore his ult needs to be instant. Tryndamere, Kayle both have extra life abilities that are instant, and his doesn't even prevent damage like theirs outright do.

Neko SirenMar 5, 20195 votes

https://rankedboost.com/league-of-legends/build/aatrox/

Search through the Top tier list, Aatrox ISN'T EVEN ON THERE FOR TOP. He's listed as E tier, which is honestly way too generous given his state. Look at the decline in win rate. The terrible item choices. Go into a practice match and FEEL for yourself just how slow and unbearable he is to play, how easy he is to counter no matter who you pit against him.

Anyone that says "he's in a good spot" got shit rekt when he ws indeed OP.

IVlaverickMar 5, 20193 votes

http://www.op.gg/champion/aatrox/statistics/top

Even more evidence, since you missed some other places, it's consistent across all the sites you visit. His play rate and win rate have completely tanked. The nerfs were over board with no compensation. They did a fantastic rework and then ruined it again when the skin sales stopped coming in...

RoboTurtleXDMar 5, 20193 votes

yeah i completely agree, he does need the dash and as an aatrox main i can admit he was a strong champ but this was too far. honestly disappointed that he didn't get buffed patch 9.5. also making his ult instant is dumb the point of the channel is that so you cant use it as a free revive, it forces players to use it earlier which is how its meant to be used.

MavëríckMar 5, 20193 votes

Got one better;

https://champion.gg/champion/Aatrox/Top?league=

Just look at that. It's just...disgusting. I haven't seen such a steep decline since... well. EVER.

IVlaverickMar 5, 20193 votes

Justice for Aatrox. You can't just rework him and then ruin him more. Fix your shit Rito!

Lord Zeta 1313Mar 5, 20193 votes

One solution

BUFF HIS STATS

For the love of god Riot, you can't just gut a champion like this

You've been doing this a lot lately, with Akali , conqueror, and crit items

IVlaverickMar 6, 20193 votes

bump! sick of Aatrox being yet another whipping boy for Riot.

Düff McWhalenMar 6, 20193 votes

https://dotesports.com/league-of-legends/news/aatrox-and-akali-really-are-that-bad-after-leagues-patch-9-3

Add this to the pile of damning evidence. I'll be looking for pro player takes on Aatrox as well if anyone has links.

StorKatorApr 9, 20193 votes

Guys plz dont go too far . Im main aatrox and i think i know what does need to be buffed . First of all think about aatrox compared to other champ and think about if he gets so much nerf/ buff how it could be ? The only buffes does he need are

Buff Q animation speed
Buff E with 2 charges and Passive regen to minions
Increase R duration ( becuase aatrox needs to have a ult like also Renekton and Nasus for ex 12 seconds or 14 seconds ) Or u can remake aatrox being that aatrox on July when he was a god champion . The fact is that rework is pretty good but with that all nerfs aatrox became a weak champion . Riot plz if u want that players to trust your incoming reworks that u need to make aatrox strong as it was before . Thank you very much

Düff McWhalenApr 11, 20191 votes

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Guys plz dont go too far . Im main aatrox and i think i know what does need to be buffed . First of all think about aatrox compared to other champ and think about if he gets so much nerf/ buff how it could be ? The only buffes does he need are

Buff Q animation speed

Buff E with 2 charges and Passive regen to minions

Increase R duration ( becuase aatrox needs to have a ult like also Renekton and Nasus for ex 12 seconds or 14 seconds ) Or u can remake aatrox being that aatrox on July when he was a god champion . The fact is that rework is pretty good but with that all nerfs aatrox became a weak champion . Riot plz if u want that players to trust your incoming reworks that u need to make aatrox strong as it was before . Thank you very much

Agreed.

Düff McWhalenMar 7, 20192 votes

I'm aware this is a Korean streamer who's godlike, but look how much even he struggles, how much he has to do to make Aatrox be able to do anything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=347XBq0RyEY

Guarantee you put Riven in his hands and he'll steam roll. I had to search all over to find post nerf Aatrox game play that was any good for the record.

MavëríckMar 8, 20192 votes

Bump for visibility. I'm amazed people seem to be so butthurt that he was OP that they can't see that the nerf made him unplayable. The proof is in this thread alone.

Düff McWhalenMar 9, 20191 votes

https://www.invenglobal.com/articles/7520/nerfed-akali-aatrox-still-viable-grf-chovy-most-of-the-champions-i-use-have-been-nerfed-so-i-need-to-look-for-something-else-to-play

Satisfacti0nMar 11, 20191 votes

That feeling when you can't even play your main anymore or else it's considered a troll pick. Aatrox item 3070

BFlatSharpMar 30, 20191 votes

nice 3rd lowest for winrate on aatrox right now, i hope riot sees that

aatrox was too strong, they said

absentalexander1Apr 6, 20191 votes

As an aatrox main I try to remaster aatrox utilizing only one dash, and I must say... it’s possible, but you’ll have to rely much more on your teammates to lock them down, which. In turn. Makes him better for Competative.

Now I agree, aatrox needs a buff, a good one, but it shouldn’t be a buff that strengthens his damage; aatrox deals more than enough damage anyway, but I mean a buff/rework to his ult, the fact his ult is just a press and wait for half health revive, it doesn’t fit aatrox’s Aggressive play style, because if you were to go in as soon as you press the ult, you’ll most likely get focused and popped while your bloodwell heals you for nothing because you just popped it.

My idea to buff aatrox is rework his bloodwell, make it so instead of regen over time, it’ll regen based on damage dealt, and to compensate for his lack of mobility, he needs more opportunities to fill his bloodwell by doing so; make the ult last 12 seconds instead of 10.

And finally make his health growth to 90 instead of 85, the fact that a darkin (which btw a single one can rival an entire army) has less health than any of the marksmen, it just makes no sense. Besides, he is an IMMOBILE JUGGERNAUT.

Yet judging by riot, they will probably buff him the exact opposite way of how we want, such as increasing the W slow, or giving him..... +3 AD