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Can Sniper Nidalee Be Brought Back Out Of The Grave?

its me brna··2 votes·608 views

When Nidalee received her kit changes to make her more of an engage style champion, I felt a bit happy that we weren't going to have to live through 1 shot spears from the fog of war anymore. The biggest problem however is, that was what made playing NIdalee so fun. Good players could dodge spears even from the shadows, so it's not like it didn't require a measure of luck or skill to land them.

The more league has evolved since Seasons 3/4 the more I begin to feel like a lot of older champions are really getting "shafted" so to speak. The reworks and updates are removing the parts that players love the most and instead replacing them with generic boring things that other champions already have. For Nidalee, her spear damage was probably the most unique thing about her kit, the feature of her that made her the most enjoyable to play. I've tried to play Nidalee quite a bit the past few years but she just isn't anywhere near as fun as she used to be. Each time I hit someone with her spear, it doesn't feel rewarding or even worthwhile.

There's way too much emphasis on Nidalee's tiger mode, and her human form is lacking. I'm far from a Nidalee main, however that isn't to say that I haven't played enough of the champion to understand. As fearsome as it was, Nidalee NEEDS her massive spear damage back. For starters, there isn't any other champions filling that niche anyways. There's also a lot more methods of dealing with it now with the introduction of champions like Braum, Jhin, Yasuo, etc. which didn't exist back when it was decided to be an "unhealthy" play style.

I really don't think it'd be unfair or unhealthy to give Nidalee more damage or scaling back on her spear. Hopefully more emphasis can be put back into making her a ranged sniper and less a melee tiger assassin.

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LyingOnLine1 votes

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No.

its me brna2 votes

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No.

How about a reason? Or do you have none.

Automated Riven1 votes

The reason sniper nidalee was removed is because they had to gimp the rest of her power in order to keep her in line if her max range spears did 3/4ths of someones health. or in some cases if she got ahead then 7/8ths. If they changed her to come back we would have a useless cat form again. If she had her current kit and the only change was that her spears were able to nearly 1shot people max range we would have an issue with having a mobile as shit leblanc all over again cause she assassinates you at 600 range with no counterplay with the exception of dodging her q. simular to if you wanted to live vs leblanc then you had to dodge chains this turns into a state of being very oppressive against teams which are behind and unable to ward properly because they can get insta gibbed from fog of war and have a super mobile nidalee dancing away with 500 move speed and hopping every 4 seconds.

its me brna1 votes

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The reason sniper nidalee was removed is because they had to gimp the rest of her power in order to keep her in line if her max range spears did 3/4ths of someones health. or in some cases if she got ahead then 7/8ths. If they changed her to come back we would have a useless cat form again. If she had her current kit and the only change was that her spears were able to nearly 1shot people max range we would have an issue with having a mobile as shit leblanc all over again cause she assassinates you at 600 range with no counterplay with the exception of dodging her q. simular to if you wanted to live vs leblanc then you had to dodge chains this turns into a state of being very oppressive against teams which are behind and unable to ward properly because they can get insta gibbed from fog of war and have a super mobile nidalee dancing away with 500 move speed and hopping every 4 seconds.

Well, I understand this however there are far more counters to her now days than back in Season 4 when they decided to adjust her. Champions like Yasuo and Braum can completely shut her spears out and now they are introducing 10 bans, if someone is that scared of playing against the Nidalee they could just ban it.

Automated Riven2 votes

having a pick that two champions can hard counter part of the time and otherwise being forced to be banned is just bad design. I wouldnt mind having another hardcore poke champion such as old nidalee and xerath but having a poke champion who can do that much damage while also allowing them to all in from 500+ range is too strong. This is part of why jayce is so hard to balance and is considered to be cancer everytime he is strong.

The other issue is that nobody (no matter how good you are) can dodge every spear. People mess up and they connect. There is no excuse for an ability that will 1shot you depend on how many times she throws it. if she throws enough from fog of war she will eventually conect and then someone dies. thats just poor champion design.

archerno11 votes

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Well, I understand this however there are far more counters to her now days than back in Season 4 when they decided to adjust her. Champions like Yasuo and Braum can completely shut her spears out and now they are introducing 10 bans, if someone is that scared of playing against the Nidalee they could just ban it.

How can they completely shut her spears down? She could cast 5 of them for each Yasuos shield. Fuck that shit. If u get to late game and she landed spear on squishy targer fight was over before it begun and team against Nida had to retreat. Pls let us forget that nightmare

LyingOnLine1 votes

Spamdalee got baleeted for a reason. There was no skill involved. There was no risk. There was only an endless succession of nukes from forever away and the pathetic excuse of people who were invested in shit gameplay that "you should just dodge the spears!".

Pink warding the spears is a meme for a reason, bro. Nobody misses that shit.

fuffychan1 votes

Riot hates champs that take skill, so they nerf the ones that do like Shaco Nidalee and buff tanks that take zero Galio Zac

Riven Main1 votes

Heimerdinger Yasuo Pantheon Zyra Braum Malzahar Morgana Shaco Yorick Elise These are just champions who can completely block the spell without needing to move. There's also plenty of dash's, blink and just movement speed abilities to help dodge. The spear's pretty slow I quite agree as her she doesn't even have cc in her kit so there's not much reason to play her. I stopped playing her support and just focused on adc with someone like Zyra who can hold the prey down well you Q and turn into cougar to pounce and 100-0 them through ad. She also has self healing for lane harass making most lane harass champions actually have trouble dealing with her as well as the ability to use melee items and grasp of undying to recover 3% and do 3% max health for auto rather than 1.5.

I do quite miss it, like I miss backwards E spamming as cass, but until people can abuse her cougar melee form like fizz going back and force from ap to bruiser it probably won't change I'm sorry.

ChaddyFantome1 votes

I don't mid that shit and I don't think anyone else does.

WindLord70701 votes

she just needs reverted back to before she had the passive apply to jungle monsters

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