Even if I go 0/19/2, it's just a game

ryona·Jun 3, 2017·8 votes·1,170 views

Who cares if you win or lose? It's just a game and people need to chill.

30 Comments

ChønklordJun 3, 20177 votes

##You are sort of right, and sort of wrong. Let me explain.

Yes, League is "just a video game" -- In the aspect that is was created for, and intended to, bring entertainment and generate a competitive community. As I believe Riot has stated before, League's game goal is to win; but it's purpose is to have fun.

That is why there is a competitive mode like Ranked, and a casual mode like Normal draft (alongside ARAM et al). The thing is, for many players, these competitive modes are more than "just a video game", the same way that both professional and amateur athletes in take their sport (which is also a "game", mind you) very seriously.

Therefore, you should respect other players' perception on how the game matters to them, because overall the community at large has focused itself around the competitive nature of League just like any other game/sport.

For example, football used to be a game kids would play in the streets hundreds of years ago; over time enough people began playing and it transformed into what we have today in the US (extreme simplification). The same concept holds true for anything that has become competitive to a large enough audience.

Darkdemon653Jun 3, 20176 votes

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Who cares if you win or lose? It's just a game and people need to chill.

You don't get to choose what is or isn't important to other people.

ryonaJun 3, 20172 votes

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You don't get to choose what is or isn't important to other people.

I do cuz it's a video game.

L0ve Is BlueJun 3, 20175 votes

Basket ball also is a game will u go take a dump in the middle of an NBA game just coz u get to decide if it's important or not? no.

Proxy345Jun 3, 20174 votes

No,feeding is serious business:

http://imgur.com/a/Crm6W

I mean look at how much effort it takes for someone to feed that much and still win lol

AnastaeciaJun 3, 20173 votes

No, it's not just a game. It's my hobby that I want to enjoy (just like anyone else and their hobby). Generally people don't enjoy games when they lose. SO, if you are causing me to lose because you are goofing around or trolling or whatever else that isn't trying to win, then you are disrupting my hobby, and yes I will get upset....just like someone yelling while you swing your golf club or spilling lacquer on your wood working project.

L0ve Is BlueJun 3, 20172 votes

You could say that about normals. But if you say this in ranked please consider not playing ranked ever again. Some people take ranked seriously, some need it to get qualified for clubs/college groups and some people even make a living out of it. Ranked= not a game.

ryonaJun 3, 20173 votes

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You could say that about normals. But if you say this in ranked please consider not playing ranked ever again. Some people take ranked seriously, some need it to get qualified for clubs/college groups and some people even make a living out of it. Ranked= not a game.

no im talking about ranked. It's just a game and you need to realise this.

Same goes for when I have internet issues and keep DCing. Nerds freak out like its the end of the world

L0ve Is BlueJun 3, 20172 votes

No it's not a game. Let's take hockey for example.

If you play hockey in a street with your bros : Game

If you are in a tournament in a league: not a game.

If one of your teamates fools around and doesn't take the game seriously in a tournament, the others will get mad and will blame him. Same goes for league. You could argue that hockey IS a game, just like league, but people have all the rights to be mad at you if you play poorly in ranked. You are ruining their experience and their chance to climb while you just don't give a shit.

CrimzynJun 3, 20171 votes

You sound like my wife. "no im talking about ranked. It's just a game and you need to realise this."

Yeah might be a game but I didn't decide to sit down and waste the last 30 mins of my life to just get up and leave the computer AFK for a loss and potential ban on the game I enjoy playing because my team rightfully reported me.

Hexs FortuneJun 3, 20171 votes

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You could say that about normals. But if you say this in ranked please consider not playing ranked ever again. Some people take ranked seriously, some need it to get qualified for clubs/college groups and some people even make a living out of it. Ranked= not a game.

even in normals 0/19 is hard to do without blatantly feeding

L0ve Is BlueJun 3, 20171 votes

I have to agree XD

But even so, if someone goes 0/19 as janna full ad jungle in normals, i'll just lose the game at the end and it won't matter. If he does that in ranked however, it reduces my chances to be selected for my college esport club or to be taken seriously when i talk about this game to people.

Of course people who are actually good will always climb up even if they encounter games like this, but i still think they can have an impact on someone's rank if repeated especialy at low rankings.

Dale WardarkJun 3, 20172 votes

Ranked is for people who want some semblance of a professional experience in League and to prove that they can climb and get better. You're basically saying that the people who want to get better at something they're passionate about don't matter to you and you couldn't care less about them. That's childish and selfish.

SparksFFFJun 3, 20171 votes

GAME!!!! YOU THINK THIS IS A GAME!!! THIS IS REAL LIFE I EAT SLEEP AND BATH WITH KogMaw THIS AIN'T NO GAME!!!!! THIS IS REAL LIFE!!!!NO CHILL NO CHILL NO CHILL!!!!

im kidding of course....i agree this community is to toxic and uptight everyone needs to chill, relax enjoy themselves have fun...make friends..

CrimzynJun 3, 20171 votes

I have enough friends. But yes, people need to chill out when someone has a bad game or bad trade... or KDA what ever.... But don't throw just because its "just a game" Just try to win so you don't waste your teams time. And please for the love of god if it is ranked, please try. Nothing worse then someone with a goal of climbing rank and having a team member throw in the towel at 5 mins. ONE bad trade at the end of the game and a winning team fight can take your FF@20 loss to a victory. But if all you do is get toxic and surrender all the time, you probably wouldn't know that.

SparksFFFJun 3, 20171 votes

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I have enough friends. But yes, people need to chill out when someone has a bad game or bad trade... or KDA what ever.... But don't throw just because its "just a game" Just try to win so you don't waste your teams time. And please for the love of god if it is ranked, please try. Nothing worse then someone with a goal of climbing rank and having a team member throw in the towel at 5 mins. ONE bad trade at the end of the game and a winning team fight can take your FF@20 loss to a victory. But if all you do is get toxic and surrender all the time, you probably wouldn't know that.

generally why i stay in AI and ARAM with the rotating game modes. regular pvp and SR is just so none chill and toxic.

CrimzynJun 3, 20171 votes

I can see that. As much as I hate some of our population... I stay with the PVP because I like the challenge.

BobbinsonJun 3, 20171 votes

nah people don't have their priorities straight and value a kids video game over everything else

SEKAIJun 3, 20171 votes

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nah people don't have their priorities straight and value a kids video game over everything else

Define 'straight priority', because if going into a competitive game as a team while expecting your teammates to at least try to some extent is not a correct priority, then what is? Going into a team project and expect everyone to bail out before it's due?

BobbinsonJun 3, 20171 votes

feel free to complain about a video game if you feel that that's the optimal decision. Don't get into a game thinking that everyone is going to tryhard , as the point of a video game is to have fun and not win as many games as possible

SEKAIJun 4, 20171 votes

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feel free to complain about a video game if you feel that that's the optimal decision. Don't get into a game thinking that everyone is going to tryhard , as the point of a video game is to have fun and not win as many games as possible

Seriously, do you think it's fun if someone just shows up in your team and go 0/19/2 because it's fun for them, and then have the audacity to come around lecturing the crew about what's fun? It's 1 thing to be an elitist, it's however another to merely expect a teammate who isn't a complete trash in both skill AND their attitude.

I'm fairly sure if you show up in a random drafting in a football, a basketball, a hockey, or whatever game, and play so badly you might as well be scoring your own goal for the opponents, and then say "hey it's just a game, who cares??", everyone would be extremely pissed at you as a result of both your skill and your pissy attitude. This is exactly the same deal.

If you want a platform in which you can just do whatever nonsense you wanna pull and have fun in it, there are singleplayer games, and there is a thing called forming your own team. When you are playing with random people you will also have to consider their stances, too. It's called basic respect.

BobbinsonJun 4, 20171 votes

If I have fun playing something stupid and going 0/19 I wont give a shit what others feel. No matter what game its still a game played for fun and not for winning unless you've got nothing better to spend your time on. I'm not gonna have basic respect for someone that has a video game as one of his top priorities

SEKAIJun 5, 20171 votes

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If I have fun playing something stupid and going 0/19 I wont give a shit what others feel. No matter what game its still a game played for fun and not for winning unless you've got nothing better to spend your time on. I'm not gonna have basic respect for someone that has a video game as one of his top priorities

Yeah, clearly, you gonna turn up in a group event and don't give no shit about how others feel. Then why join this group event then? Why play team multiplayer game?

There is no intrinsic difference between games or anything. If you use that shit attitude in any events that involve more than 1 people/strangers, you will get thrown out or something similar. Doesn't matter if it's a group assignment, going to the cinema, or riding the god damn bus. No one likes you living in your little world AND also pulling shit at the expense of them for no reason. Who the fk are you anyway, what makes you think your voices hold more weight than others'?

Just because you're self-centered and condescending as all hell, doesn't mean others are suddenly supposed to respect your stance and opinion when you clearly don't respect theirs. That's low. Someone who has no idea of or even rejecting basic concepts of empathy and respect as well as at least some degrees of social awareness, ie the fundamental of real-life, is in no position to lecture others about the supposed "straight priority" or whatever you call it.

It's 1 thing to have a teammate who feed, and having someone who don't give a shit about team when they themselves chose to be in the team in the first place.

BobbinsonJun 5, 20171 votes

i play for myself not for others , just means I prioritize myself over other random people which 90% of the time act like 12 yo's

SEKAIJun 3, 20171 votes

Then you can go play singleplayer games, or at least get your own premades, where you have full control, since in multiplayer games there are other players who're strapped in with you in this and you have to consider their stances too.

You can't throw your arms up in a football match and say "Who cares if you win or lose? It's just a game and people need to chill." No. If you're drafted in a football team composed of randoms, then you play to win. Or else if you want the opt-in-opt-out options, either form your own team or go play solo sports. Here, it's the same deal.

FrightningJun 3, 20171 votes

The definition of game in game theory is: a map (a.k.a. function) from a strategy space to an outcome space. Literally life itself fits that definition of game, so, games can be serious business. That said, flaming your teammates for poor play is a recipe for more poor play from them, and perhaps now from you too (because you're tilted and not thinking clearly). The only worthwhile feedback to give teammates in game about their play are things that can be immediately put into action without any explanation of hows and whys.

Elkington VIJun 3, 20171 votes

I agree it's just a game, but the problem is that it's a "competitive game," so you're always going to have people that are taking the game seriously, and you have to take that into consideration. Riot actively encourages taking the game seriously, so if you want to get along with people, I would suggest doing your best to carry your weight and not be a burden to your teammates. If you can't handle that, there are a wealth of single player games for you to enjoy.

Alternatively, you could play some fighting games. Then you don't have to tell anyone "it's just a game" while you're getting bodied. When you lose, it's all on you and no one else's experience gets ruined because of it.

TonsOfGainsJun 3, 20171 votes

I mean you're the one playing keyboard warrior on the internet boards of the same "game" you're complaining about...

[zombie-brand-mindblown]

XenociderOmegaJun 4, 20171 votes

I hate ppl that use that excuse when they getting owned

DoktorKaiserJun 4, 20171 votes

I will not in any case have fun if I lose the game UNLESS it was a close 50 minute game with everyone giving their absolute best. If I lose because you trolled or you are just too stupid/incompetent/young to properly play this game then you caused me not to have fun AND waste 20-40 minutes of my life on nothing. Just gone. Wasted. Because of you. THAT is why I dont have fun when losing because of shits like you, I hope you get permabanned because you certanly deserve it.