Great Job on the Veigar E

ScurvyNave··3 votes·763 views

I mean it had so little counter play

not like a Vi or Warwick Ult or an Annie Stun.

Or maybe people could invest in avoiding engaging when the cool down was up or buying a QSS or Zhonya's Hourglass like any clever person would do when facing a Veigar. Let me honestly ask when did someone complain about Veigar before you implemented patch5.4. I'll tell you: hardly ever and now your gonna be stuck listening to people bitch about the new Veigar for ages. This isn't up to the Cassiopeia rework form of bad but its close.

In all honestly I do like the Q change it makes farming more interesting and once you get some AP you can clear minions much quicker than with the old Q.

The W however is worthless because without a good E you can never land it and the nerf to the ult damage is ridiculous. You want less burst? And yet Kalista has the super form of smite? Nidalee is rampant in the jungle, Jayce can chunk a health bar from across the map!

I sense hypocrisy in patch 5.4. In your efforts to increase strategic diversity you've managed to cripple champions that were already on the weaker side and have narrowed champion diversity completely. If people take it to any other lane than Riot has intended the champion gets nerfed to hell. Let's see if Cloud 9 picks Veigar support ever again now that his stun is shit.

Also can I please get a refund on my Veigar skin if these changes on E aren't going to get reverted cause I'm sure as hell not going to be using them from now on.

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pls no lolnexus1 votes

We feel your pain.item 3070

DotEleven1 votes

I do hate Annie stun, but at least you can see if she has it prepared or not and Warwick ult has counterplay, it's called interrupt it. Vi however, I agree with. It's absolutely ridiculous and there's nothing you can do to prevent it.

PS, I also hate Annie stun, but to a lesser degree than Annie.

But look at this. You're comparing Veigar's basic Event Horizon to 2 ults and then Annie's passive, which is usually used on her Ult.

ScurvyNave1 votes

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I do hate Annie stun, but at least you can see if she has it prepared or not and Warwick ult has counterplay, it's called interrupt it. Vi however, I agree with. It's absolutely ridiculous and there's nothing you can do to prevent it.

PS, I also hate Annie stun, but to a lesser degree than Annie.

But look at this. You're comparing Veigar's basic Event Horizon to 2 ults and then Annie's passive, which is usually used on her Ult.

What I'm trying to say is they directly nerfed the utility of his stun which is, as I like to point out, his only means of escape/ engage aside from his flash. Not only is Veigar non-mobile, he is also squishy and can only target 1 person. 1 mind you. Not the entire team.

Also it was an essential part of his kit. Without it, you can't land your W unless the enemy is minion blocked to hell or braindead. And without your W the new version of his ult is rarely enough to outright kill someone in tandem with his Q.

BluePolarizer1 votes

no you can't. Sit at 3, then E-R or Q then E in mid air. Annie 101. Doesn't mean Annie is OP, she's incredibly easy to beat with long ranged mages which aren't in meta. Try playing Annie vs. Xerath, you're gonna have a bad time.

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