can we buff Taliyah now?

I NEED HEALlNG·May 8, 2017·2 votes·1,306 views

I fiind it super ironic that i can roam more with Ryze or Ekko while Taliyah, literally made to roam, does it the worst. I get her kit is unique, not much of a power spike while requiring extreme planning to play, but what the fuck?

No power spike ult An ult that's basically on a 2 min cooldown. Worked Ground A slow casting, vector W Fall off damage on e Too much mana for 1 combo too much mana for half of her combo Really bad early game

She seems like she hasn't been worked with for ages after they gutted her. Almost every laner from Talon to Xerath just shit on her. Pretty shitty earlygame, She's one of the only really fun champions in this game. What do you guys think?

5 Comments

WhammerMay 8, 20173 votes

If taliyah got buffed she would be meta defining and 100% pick banned, at least in the pro scene. Her mana cost for 1 spell rotation is high for a reason, because it has enough dmg in it to nearly 1 shot a squishy mage or adc, if you could throw that kind of damage around willy nilly something would be majorly wrong. Her early game is actually pretty insane, Her Q is overloaded as far as basic damage spells go to make up for the lack of damage in the rest of her kit, and she can easily force the enemy out of lane or kill them at level 3 if she lands 1 single w. She is on the verge of being broken by multiple metrics, not exactly a prime position to be buffed.

I NEED HEALlNGMay 9, 20171 votes

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If taliyah got buffed she would be meta defining and 100% pick banned, at least in the pro scene. Her mana cost for 1 spell rotation is high for a reason, because it has enough dmg in it to nearly 1 shot a squishy mage or adc, if you could throw that kind of damage around willy nilly something would be majorly wrong. Her early game is actually pretty insane, Her Q is overloaded as far as basic damage spells go to make up for the lack of damage in the rest of her kit, and she can easily force the enemy out of lane or kill them at level 3 if she lands 1 single w. She is on the verge of being broken by multiple metrics, not exactly a prime position to be buffed.

i disagree. i feel that if you land it, it should do damage, like orianna. But overall it's too much mana and i fell as if she's lacking so much compared to others

ApocylipticMay 8, 20171 votes

Taliya is right where she should be and needs no buffs. She is a very difficult champion to play with a high skill ceiling and that's probably the root of your frustration and why you think she feels weak. A lot like GP, unless you one trick her, you probably shouldn't be playing her.

She's currently finally in a balanced state. Her release was a mess, and a champion with that much kite and safety was incredibly frustrating to play against given how strong she was. If you buff her, expect an absurdly high ban rate and nerfs the patch right after.

I NEED HEALlNGMay 9, 20171 votes

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Taliya is right where she should be and needs no buffs. She is a very difficult champion to play with a high skill ceiling and that's probably the root of your frustration and why you think she feels weak. A lot like GP, unless you one trick her, you probably shouldn't be playing her.

She's currently finally in a balanced state. Her release was a mess, and a champion with that much kite and safety was incredibly frustrating to play against given how strong she was. If you buff her, expect an absurdly high ban rate and nerfs the patch right after.

but there are SO many more champions that are just as safe while dishing out even MORE damage

geno dragonsOct 24, 20181 votes

i kind of agree with this, i mean taliyah is good and has high damage, she might have the ability to kite quite well but she's nowhere near half these champions that can easily just hop up and deal your damage outright, or hell i hate to say it but i just played a game i went to go ward as taliyah and sona two shot me with her q, it did over 1.5k damage which is regardless of what she builds is ridiculous. It's hard to balance out taliyah, i feel like now she has a decent start because they removed the reduced damage to minions, but her damage is mitigated by the fact that shes forced to follow champions when shooting in a straight line and her q doesnt do the aoe damage anymore so she can never really hit the champs if they hide behind them. Most of this is more of a skill problem but i think at least bringing the aoe damage would be helpful to play her. Then again though i also could be wrong, balancing is hard but i feel like either taliyah needs a buff, or some champions need a serious nerf.