Twitch's Deadly Toxin isn't very "Deadly"

Espurr VI·Jan 3, 2016·10 votes·965 views

Let's face it. Aside from being able to turn invisible, Twitch is just a toned down Kalista. Kalista has more dps, mobility, infinite stacking, and actual cc.

Twitch has invisibility, an ult that is pretty nice for team fights, and a mini mini mini ignite.

Can Twitch have something to make him more... toxic? His passive is Deadly Toxin, so how about making it deadly? Increase the max amount of stacks to 10 and maybe have a big bonus for hitting 10 stacks? Maybe it consumes them and deals a lot more true damage over time?

15 Comments

Best KhaZix VoidJan 3, 20166 votes

that is not true Twitch scales WAY better into the late game than kalista, and is way better at teamfighting and assassinating people than her too.

QuephaJan 3, 20162 votes

Riot hates DoTs. It's too unfun for other players to die from a DoT after they disengage from a fight (except when Zed does it)

DryditchJan 3, 20162 votes

What if they threw Twitch a bone and gave him an AD scaling on his W or his passive? I get that true damage is OP as fuck, but six seconds for 216 hp is ridiculous. My Mundo build heals ~300 a second by the time we hit late game.

Maybe throw a crippling effect that removes X AD from enemies per stack of poison? I'd really like to see that early game.

KaeblenJan 5, 20161 votes

I had an Idea like this too: an Attack speed slow that scales up with W, but applies to anyone hit by his passive.

Sm0k3McCl0udJan 3, 20161 votes

Apparently these sorts of passives that cause damage over time are too hard for riot to balance... take dravens bleed for example... they couldn't get that one right no matter how hard they tried so they gave him the shitty gold passive... only thing is he doesn't have the damage without the passive to actually kill anyone and get that gold.

Draven, another one of my champs that riot totally killed once I got good with them...

Espurr VIJan 3, 20161 votes

Maybe have it not do anything unless you get to a certain amount of stacks?

Sm0k3McCl0udJan 3, 20161 votes

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Maybe have it not do anything unless you get to a certain amount of stacks?

That would be even more retarded then what it does now, which is next to nothing... I'm sure with ideas like that you could easily get a job on riots balance team.

Why not suggest just removing twitchs passive entirely?

wishbone25Jan 3, 20161 votes

give this a guy a cookie ! item 2010

TNHA BaritoneJan 3, 20161 votes

Keep the poison stacking, change the Rend - Like E. Add effect onto W

Tahm DaddyJan 3, 20161 votes

My friend does pretty well on Twitch. He doesn't even play ADCs but he plays Twitch like he was an ADC main. He's a fun niche ADC that will almost always be relevant because of his insane ability to assassinate people. As for the passive we seem to do well with it. Can't count the times the enemy laner survived the ignite but the last few HP he had were gone due to the toxic ticks. And really the passive is more to set up for the expunge (Is that what his E is called?) damage rather than to do a bunch of damage by itself. I think for the most part Twitch is fine but they could really take a look at his explosive cask (Or whatever that AoE slow is). It seems pretty garbage. Most of the older champs have at least one ability that is just way too simple. Isn't a slow that does hardly any damage a bit redundant in a lane where your support should have some form of engage? I mean the stacks of the toxins it adds is nice but usually cancelling or delaying an auto just to throw it isn't worth it imo.

Describing his ult as "pretty nice for team fights" seems like an understatement. It gives a bunch of range, AoE and it gives bonus AD (Maybe).

PokladnicaZlaJan 3, 20161 votes

For a while I had this buff in my head for him (thought I don't play him).What if when he kills an enemy they proc his W around them if they had atleast 2 stacks on his passive. It thematicly fits to the plague rats.Diseases to get transmited faster through corpses.

IndianBillyJan 3, 20161 votes

Agree. Twitch has been neglected for a VERY long time. Everyone else gets some type of stun, knock-back, interrupting shot or some bs that stops Twitch in his tracks. Twitch has none of this. He is SLOWER than everyone- and gets outran at all times. His poison DOES NOT TICK DOWN TO KILL UNLESS THE ENEMY IS VISIBLE. If the enemy is out of vision range- the poison stops ticking. DO NOT DENY THIS- I HAVE SEEN IT COUNTLESS TIMES. Twitch has definitely got crapped on- but whatever- someone that programs the game apparently doesn't like him. It is showing in how unbalanced the game is becoming.

KaeblenJan 3, 20161 votes