can someone explain to me again why Lee Sin still has ward hopping?

Aamano·May 18, 2017·21 votes·944 views

its pretty arbitrary even just besides the gameplay

26 Comments

Mecha MaIphiteMay 18, 201711 votes

Because he would have to be completely rebalanced if it were removed.

HaIlMonitorMay 18, 20177 votes

Why would he need to be reblanced? It makes him less safe and more all in for ganks, seems like a fair trade.

RalanrMay 18, 20178 votes

He's balanced around his ward hopping.

HaIlMonitorMay 18, 20178 votes

He isn't balanced around aynthing and they ignore him. That is the point of the op post. They Do slight nerfs to him to act like they are helping the situation but they will buff him when summer split happens again.

ShadowParkerMay 18, 20177 votes

No. He is balanced around his ward hopping.

AnhartaminMay 18, 20174 votes

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HaIlMonitorMay 18, 20171 votes

Why would anyone except freelo people care? He has been in the game forever and has dominated. Who cares if the jungle has fresh faces.

PrinceOfStormsMay 18, 20173 votes

Another MS reduction and maybe a damage reduction on his ult. It's fine if Lee sits at sub 45% winrate for once.

DysnomiaMay 18, 201710 votes

They even removed it from Katarina.

UnvictusMay 18, 20177 votes

To be fair her mobility would've been astronomically frustrating to play against if they kept ward hoping on her new kit. As a kat main i was not upset about that change. That being said, I still don't think lee needs it..

Pater GascoigneMay 18, 201710 votes

flashy plays

AkeneroMay 18, 20176 votes

Every Lee main would rage if they removed it.

SarutobiMay 18, 20174 votes

Cuz someone needs to be the OP champion in this game!

ShablagooMay 18, 20174 votes

Why its apart of him that makes him unique, why cant a champion be unique? Ppl hate on champions for their uniqueness and call it op not all champions are the same let them be unique and stop crying over getting beat. It doesnt even make him oppressive to play against its his burst that might make him oppressive.

Sun Wu RyuumokuMay 18, 20174 votes

All the board will bitching about it, but without this, Ult will become close of useless, will just be used like an execute. If u remove it, u must change his whole kit.

L Psy KongrooMay 18, 20172 votes

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All the board will bitching about it, but without this, Ult will become close of useless, will just be used like an execute. If u remove it, u must change his whole kit.

He'd still have his ridiculous ult+flash combo. And he would also have his unavoidable ult+Q+Q combo, which is specifically why a lot of people hate him.

deadlychuckMay 18, 20173 votes

Because they provide the vision needed for him to aim his jump [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

skyskee008May 19, 20173 votes

So people in Gameplay boards can circlejerk about it and get free upvotes while not having any real discussion

PhifeMay 18, 20172 votes

why does he have ward hopping, Q distance 1500, 350 base MS and a slow?

I Love ThreshMay 18, 20172 votes

He relies on it a lot. Just let him have his thing, it's not like he's stupidly broken.

AmazoXMay 18, 20171 votes

Because LC$

cheesydethMay 18, 20171 votes

Lee Sin is Riot's personal wank champion, they hardly touch him despite community dislike throughout more than one season. They won't change him he's too popular to watch in LCS and Sin mains would throw an autismal fit if he were to be changed or remade at all. That and Riot has gone out and stated that they feel like he has a 'healthy' kit that doesn't need much change or adjustment outside of numbers. Riot likes him, community opinion varies. I personally dislike him, but until Riot sees him as an issue or he starts to seem really broken he won't change all that much. It's been 7 seasons without major changes or shifts to him.