Give me a real anti crowd control item.

Bultz·Apr 18, 2017·1 votes·7,030 views

Crowd control is the most toxic part of this game, with no effective counter. I'm not sorry, someone using Q to stun me shouldn't mean instant death. Yes we have Merc treads, their useless. As for merc Scimitar, also useless. A debuff with a 180+ cool down when cc is on near every champion is toxic. 25% tenacity and 1 debuff is basically like someone giving you leftover bones after they ate a steak. You sue the scimitar active only to be stunned again or rooted or knocked up or etc etc etc. Give us a real crowd control item please.

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Icathian CreedApr 18, 20179 votes

item 3009 item 3111 item 3139 item 3102 item 3222 item 3814

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Plenty of choices to choose from. Ever consider the possibility that your positioning is just bad? I mean, riot cant release an item that makes you invulnerable to crowd control. That would be overpowered. The closest thing they have to that is item 3157 or a Bard ult. Which makes you completely invulnerable, yet unable to do anything.

BultzApr 18, 20171 votes

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Plenty of choices to choose from. Ever consider the possibility that your positioning is just bad? I mean, riot cant release an item that makes you invulnerable to crowd control. That would be overpowered. The closest thing they have to that is or a ult. Which makes you completely invulnerable, yet unable to do anything.

item 3009 does not stop cc or chained cc. item 3111 Supposed to reduce the time, but i've had 51% tenacity and it barely helped, the 25% this gives is useless. item 3139 the cooldown is ridiculous on the only item to debuff hard core cc when most cc has low cool down. item 3102 Yes this helps, but again a one shot deal and a shield which can be lowered by most attack. item 3222 this is for allied champions, not yourself. item 3814 The shield has a charge time, you go ahead and predict being stunned. Almost all of these items are class items. Do you see most champions being able to build these and be effective? No you don't.

I don't think it's ridiculous to ask for an item to help with cc when there is so much chained cc in the game.

Icathian CreedApr 18, 20173 votes

The whole chain cc thing applies to everybody on both teams. This is why when you are in champ select, its important to think about what your teams comp is and what the enemy teams comp is. How are you picking. Are you picking a tanky team with lots of crowd control to lock them down, a mobile team that isn't meant for teamfights but for skirmishes and split pushing, a poke comp to wear down your enemies before going in on them?

If you have lots of problems with crowd control being focused on you, either you have a bad team comp that isn't able to fight back, or you have poor positioning. Maybe you get focused because you play a hard carry. If that displeases you, try different champs or different roles. Personally, I like Velkoz . He is great for teamfights and can still delete squishies and shred tanks thanks to his low cooldowns, burst damage, and true damage. But the trick to playing him properly is positioning. Even though his ult wreaks havoc in a teamfight, if he doesn't sit behind a frontline or land a good multi-person knockup before using it, his ult will only last a second if that before he is cc'd.

So I am going to reiterate my point here. The problem isn't a lack of items, its a lack of experience, or poor team compositions.

CochoApr 18, 20173 votes

If you're looking for a braindead activate that turns you into Olaf as an item, then that is just not going to happen.

I can't say it wouldn't be entertaining to watch MasterYi Katarina Vladimir Swain Darius run around with Olaf 's ult though. Just murdering everyone. Dodge the CC, or just item 3140 summoner 1 the one that matters in the appropriate time. If you use QSS, just to get CC'd again, then you used the item terribly, and/or didn't dodge the next spell.

No flash no lifeApr 18, 20173 votes

maybe it's just me, but I believe cc is meant to be a counter, you're not supposed to be able to counter it since that would defeat its purpose.

BultzApr 18, 20171 votes

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maybe it's just me, but I believe cc is meant to be a counter, you're not supposed to be able to counter it since that would defeat its purpose.

your logic is not sound, try again. 1)you want counters 2) you only want counters or certain things while leaving other things un countered. 3) Everything should have a counter.

Handy Sandy Apr 18, 20172 votes

item 3222

The items you listed are far from useless by the way.

2kewl4lifeApr 18, 20172 votes

we should also remove turrets from the game because there are no counters and when i try to 1v1 it kills me why rito plz

BultzApr 18, 20171 votes

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we should also remove turrets from the game because there are no counters and when i try to 1v1 it kills me why rito plz

They should it's not like turrets do any damage past early game.

LauchmelderApr 18, 20171 votes

Are you that dense or are you just acting like that? That was obvious sarcasm.

VoraciousXApr 18, 20172 votes

My only issue is that AD champions get an actual build path out of QSS while mages are stuck with only the component item. Also Banshee's Veil is like the worst CC immunity item in the game. It's not hard to pop with the most basic non-CC ability and then use your CC directly afterwards. Edge of Night is probably the best CC immunity item aside from QSS because you can actually initiate with it on. It's pretty difficult to use properly now though considering how short the duration is. You can't really plan it as easily.

The changes to Banshee's Veil and Abyssal Scepter are going to be so annoying to deal with for mages. More magic damage with AP on it is much better than a one time shield that can be popped like nothing. It's gonna be so niche, and Amumu will basically get another buff out of the abyssal scepter change.