why the hell is ryze getting another update before Yorick???

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Sahn Uzal8 votes

Because Riot is working on both at the same time bot Ryze just does not take as long to finish.

EpicMusic1 votes

so they JUST STARTED on yorick when ryze had a couple reworks now? alrighty then

Sahn Uzal2 votes

Yorick has been in progress sinse Poppy rework release, they just started on Ryze after they finished Taric. Yorick just takes ages because champions that have minions like Yorick ghouls take ages to finish

Cenobite Azaziel1 votes

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Yorick has been in progress sinse Poppy rework release, they just started on Ryze after they finished Taric. Yorick just takes ages because champions that have minions like Yorick ghouls take ages to finish

Actually it takes ages because every time they have a concept for yorick they scrap it. His remake is on the way for...2~3 years.

Quepha2 votes

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so they JUST STARTED on yorick when ryze had a couple reworks now? alrighty then

They started on Yorick a while ago, he got put on the list when they were far enough along that they were pretty sure they had something that they could finish and ship.

Ryze was assigned to a different team working independently of the Yorick team because he cannot be balanced in a state where he's playable in solo queue without being oppressive in pro play.

Yorick is taking a lot of time because he is getting a full champion relaunch. They started with some ideas of his theme but pretty much everything else had to be built up from scratch, including full art assets. With Ryze they have pretty much everything they need in terms of art, playstyle, game role, even most of his abilities, etc. They just need to mix it up in a way that players can perform decently with him without sub-100 ping and the mechanics of a top-tier fighting game player.

Marshbouy2 votes

Link the news about ryze please

LostFr0st1 votes

OP is talking about this https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/202294884-Champion-Update-Schedule and SwHc Fenris is right about them being worked on at the same time and Ryze just taking less time.

Meep Man2 votes

Imagine that you were making a cookie and a wedding cake for the same payoff. Both customers are paying you $5.00 for their respective food. Which would you make first?

Not only this, but you have two teams to make the cake and cookie. There are five people on each team for a total of ten. What do you think is going to be completed first, the wedding cake or the cookie?

EpicMusic1 votes

they already made cookies couple times now, cake isnt finished yet after all that?

Oleandervine1 votes

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they already made cookies couple times now, cake isnt finished yet after all that?

Ryze is getting a smaller level rework and a visual update along the lines of Gangplank; this means one or two of his passive/skills may change completely, he'll get number tweaks, but overall, how he plays is still generally the same. His visual update is probably the largest part of his rework. Yorick on the other hand is possibly one of the worst designed champions EVER. He's getting a Sion/Poppy/Taric level rework and visual update, but I believe it may even beore extensive than that. His kit does not work, period. They have to essentially invent a brand new champion that is a minion master who has presence in team fights. Creating an entirely new kit takes a helluva lot longer than the spell replacement/number tweaks Ryze needs, even if they're both being worked on silumataneously. There's brainstorming, internal testing, broken mechanics, back to brainstorming, more internal testing, more broken elements, more brainstorming, etc. It's a long process and that's why they can crank out Ryze a lot faster than Yorick.

stealthfox941 votes

Because Ryze is one of the worst designed champions in the games and needs an extensive rework.

EpicMusic1 votes

and yorick isnt?

stealthfox941 votes

I never said he wasn't. There's a reason he's getting reworked to.

Marshbouy1 votes

How is he the worst designed?

stealthfox941 votes

Have you ever seen him in LCS? Also Riot has never really been able to balance him he's either underpower or overpowered.

Marshbouy1 votes

i have an i can play him at a moderate level. his nerf hit him very hard

Stellafreyja1 votes

Ryze already had a VU in progress during his last rework, but they scrapped it. They're probably closer to completing that than Yorick's. I also get the feeling they're trying to time Yorick's release with Halloween because spoopy...lol

(Also Ryze is named after the Riot CEO, of course he'd get 3 reworks before some champions...)

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