Mages are too strong, toxic and OP

Indominus Blade·Sep 22, 2015·3 votes·1,773 views

Fact ;) As a Diamond player, I'd rather play 100 games vs or than 1 game vs that 0 skill toxic champ or that toxic 0 risk high reward .

http://www.op.gg/statistics/champion/

52 Comments

LaceUp23Sep 22, 20158 votes

Lmfao, you spam Yasuo and Zed and want to talk about toxic xD

You have the 2 biggest counters to mages in hexdrinker and Qss. If you don't build, then you're an idiot.

Indominus BladeSep 22, 20151 votes

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Lmfao, you spam Yasuo and Zed and want to talk about toxic xD

You have the 2 biggest counters to mages in hexdrinker and Qss. If you don't build, then you're an idiot.

There is no such a thing as a mage counter, you don't know what you are talking about. The mage counter is something from S3, when Talon and Kassadin were counters to mages, today? nope.

LaceUp23Sep 22, 20154 votes

It's clear to me that you have no interest in learning something new, so have a jolly day Mr. Business Major.

Indominus BladeSep 22, 20151 votes

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It's clear to me that you have no interest in learning something new, so have a jolly day Mr. Business Major.

Nothing you said refuted my diamond elo statement, stay salty.

LaceUp23Sep 22, 20151 votes

News flash, you're still an amateur :D

Stay bad :)

Indominus BladeSep 22, 20151 votes

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News flash, you're still an amateur :D

Stay bad :)

Silver troll who has nothing relevant to say, what a surprise.

LaceUp23Sep 22, 20151 votes

Amateur scrub that is bitching about champs being OP, what a surprise.

Indominus BladeSep 22, 20151 votes

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Amateur scrub that is bitching about champs being OP, what a surprise.

Mages being too strong is fact.

LaceUp23Sep 22, 20152 votes

1 mage in the top 15 pick rate, 2 in the top 20.

If you aren't intelligent enough to understand numbers, then you probably shouldn't comment on them :). Anyway, I'm done answering your trollo threads. It's obvious you are trolling....or just too stupid.

Titanium70Sep 22, 20151 votes

Sometimes I am ashamed to be to be in the same league as these wanabe Pro´s are..... You´re right, just ignore him an pray he get finally banned one day for this beyond bad attitude!

LaceUp23Sep 22, 20151 votes

I just wish they didn't allow business majors to play....there would be much less feeding and "toxicity" lol.

Indominus BladeSep 23, 20151 votes

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Sometimes I am ashamed to be to be in the same league as these wanabe Pro´s are..... You´re right, just ignore him an pray he get finally banned one day for this beyond bad attitude!

You are not in my league, you are diamond 5 with 270 games played and a 52% winrate. I am diamond 4 with 99 games played anda 71% win rate.

X Anivia XSep 27, 20151 votes

Once again, smaller sample space. make the same comparison after you've played 270 games.

Indominus BladeSep 23, 20151 votes

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1 mage in the top 15 pick rate, 2 in the top 20.

If you aren't intelligent enough to understand numbers, then you probably shouldn't comment on them :). Anyway, I'm done answering your trollo threads. It's obvious you are trolling....or just too stupid.

Malzahar TwistedFate Ahri Karthus Lux are all mages, go away low elo troll who isn't "intelligent enough to understand numbers". kek.

X Anivia XSep 22, 20151 votes

And I presume YOU, sir are the toxic one. Champions aren't toxic. People are. And given your responses to non-diamond players, my guess is you're probably toxic in game. You think you're better than anyone else because you're diamond. Ok. So maybe you are, but it doesn't put you above taking advice instead of flaming and complaining about everything. Your overconfidence is your weakness. I suspect that there's more to it than mages being strong. Because what I think is that mages have been underpowered for so long that people have just forgotten how to deal with them. And as a person who plays AD champions, of course you resent the fact that AP has been made viable again. You were used to your champions being freelo. Guess what. Riot made AP possible to play again. So learn some new champions and stop complaining. When Yasuo and other AD mids became the biggest thing, I switched up my game. Instead of maining Akali and Katarina , I went Fiora , Riven and AP-max-E MissFortune with item 3151 for midlaning. Also nice against Yasuo 's wall, AP with maxed E is. Now that mages are back, I main Anivia because most of the people in my general rank don't remember how to kill her. You just gotta adapt bro. Champs go in and out. Find champions that are strong in YOUR elo, just as I keep switching as the meta changes. Can't spam champions through a meta change and expect everything to turn out the same. That's one of the reasons I'm no longer B5. I've learned to adapt to large changes in meta and have become more willing to try more champions when necessary.

Indominus BladeSep 22, 20151 votes

You write so much, but say nothing relevant to the topic at hand. I don't have problems with mage champions, but their winrate is too high and thus they need nerfs. Get over it, the only freelo atm are mages.

X Anivia XSep 27, 20151 votes

Ah. but it IS relevant. Let's do some basic math. Winrate = wins / games played. I had a 100% win rate with Ahri last season. But I only played 3 games with her. Doesn't mean anything if the sample taken is too small. Don't you know anything about statistics? A small sample space means that the error margins are HUMONGOUS.

Indominus BladeSep 30, 20151 votes

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Ah. but it IS relevant. Let's do some basic math. Winrate = wins / games played. I had a 100% win rate with Ahri last season. But I only played 3 games with her. Doesn't mean anything if the sample taken is too small. Don't you know anything about statistics? A small sample space means that the error margins are HUMONGOUS.

The site uses global sample size yet you claim that is a small sample size? rofl, troll confirmed, all future posts from you will be ignored, cya.

RIP Tahm KenchSep 27, 20151 votes

Cho'Gath is a pretty damn good counter to mages.

magic poleSep 22, 20155 votes

as a malzahar player i approve this message.

as they say in diamond, git gud

Reaper SorakaSep 22, 20153 votes

I'm no diamond player, but in Diamond don't you adjust your build according to what you're against? Like in gold we just follow the exact same thing every game, but in Diamond you'd want to get like a QSS earlier on...right?

Indominus BladeSep 22, 20151 votes

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I'm no diamond player, but in Diamond don't you adjust your build according to what you're against? Like in gold we just follow the exact same thing every game, but in Diamond you'd want to get like a QSS earlier on...right?

Doesn't change the fact that Malzahar win rate is too high and other mages are too strong as well.

Stiv1234Sep 22, 20153 votes

Win rate doesnt mean anything if pickrate is low. Also, just because Malz counters the champs you exclusively play, that doesnt mean hes too strong. Ahri is OP, but nowhere near as broken antifun cancer as this guy Yasuo .

Indominus BladeSep 22, 20151 votes

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Win rate doesnt mean anything if pickrate is low. Also, just because Malz counters the champs you exclusively play, that doesnt mean hes too strong. Ahri is OP, but nowhere near as broken antifun cancer as this guy .

Nice excuses, nothing can deny the high winrate of mage champions, they need nerfs. Yasuo is very fun to play against, I love playing against Yasuo.

Stiv1234Sep 22, 20152 votes

Yeah, now read my post again and show me where I said Malz doesnt have a high win rate.

X Anivia XSep 22, 20151 votes

I see you're a Yasuo / Zed player. Ok. Ahri 's initiation for her full combo actually is a fairly slow projectile (her E). Use your wall or swap shadows to get out of it. You do realize that both champions you spam are in fact, so mobile that you SHOULD be able to dodge anything. From what I can tell, the ones that actually fit your description of the mages you hate (i.e. point and click) are Cassiopeia and Annie . you should have no trouble with, as his stun is EXTREMELY slow-moving. His passive may be a bit broken, but that's the only thing I have a problem with. Oh and I'm in BRONZE 4 and I have no trouble dodging Pillar of Flame with Anivia even before I get item 1001 .

Indominus BladeSep 22, 20151 votes

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I see you're a / player. Ok. 's initiation for her full combo actually is a fairly slow projectile (her E). Use your wall or swap shadows to get out of it. You do realize that both champions you spam are in fact, so mobile that you SHOULD be able to dodge anything. From what I can tell, the ones that actually fit your description of the mages you hate (i.e. point and click) are and . you should have no trouble with, as his stun is EXTREMELY slow-moving. His passive may be a bit broken, but that's the only thing I have a problem with. Oh and I'm in BRONZE 4 and I have no trouble dodging Pillar of Flame with even before I get .

I don't need advice from low elo players. This thread doesn't have to do anything with me, I can handle any champion in the game just fine. This thread is about factual statistics, mages are too strong at the moment, the winrate shows this.

X Anivia XSep 27, 20151 votes

Sir, YOU, in your dismissal of others, appear to be the toxic one. So chill out Britney Spears. BTW. This seems to be true of many Yasuo players.

PoskeSep 27, 20151 votes

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Win rate doesnt mean anything if pickrate is low. Also, just because Malz counters the champs you exclusively play, that doesnt mean hes too strong. Ahri is OP, but nowhere near as broken antifun cancer as this guy .

Saddest part is that an entire malzahar playerbase is full of bad players yet he has 53% winrate True story

BellowsSep 22, 20151 votes

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I'm no diamond player, but in Diamond don't you adjust your build according to what you're against? Like in gold we just follow the exact same thing every game, but in Diamond you'd want to get like a QSS earlier on...right?

Its about counter playing not counter building, and there is simply too little counter play and to many ways for those champs to cover their butts and zone you out, which in the end increases their win rate.

Maximum MordeSep 22, 20152 votes

They are strong because they are the only mages that deal with the mobility cancer League has become. Point click targeting is the most reliable way to actually be relevant when you have champions jumping around like crickets on cocaine. But, don't worry. Instead of stopping the mobility monsoon, Rito has shown that it intends to nerf all of the point click champions since they like LC$BIGPLAY$ better.

Indominus BladeSep 22, 20151 votes

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They are strong because they are the only mages that deal with the mobility cancer League has become. Point click targeting is the most reliable way to actually be relevant when you have champions jumping around like crickets on cocaine. But, don't worry. Instead of stopping the mobility monsoon, Rito has shown that it intends to nerf all of the point click champions since they like LC$BIGPLAY$ better.

Brand, Ahri, Lux dont have point and click, they have skill shots, you are a troll who tries to lie about balance, go away. Mages are too strong, winrate too high.

Hasztalan2Sep 22, 20152 votes

Well that's what u get for gving a tripple dash champion an unnecesary "compensation" buff when there are trillion worse champs who needed it + here is the resulst removing every silence frmo the game.

Oh and teh fact that there are barely any mr item left in the game from thoose only item 3111 item 3102 item 3065 are good.

CatastropSep 22, 20152 votes

You're an assassin player from what I've seen from all your threads. AD Assassins at that. Here's a tip, item 3155 item 3140 .

Indominus BladeSep 22, 20151 votes

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You're an assassin player from what I've seen from all your threads. AD Assassins at that. Here's a tip, .

Unranked aram spammer wants to give diamond elo a tip? HAHAHAHA. I already know those items andw hat they do, has nothing to do with this thread. Mages are too strong and have too high winrate atm.

CatastropSep 22, 20152 votes

If you know what they do, why are you complaining? I'd expect a bit more tact from a diamond player.

Indominus BladeSep 22, 20151 votes

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If you know what they do, why are you complaining? I'd expect a bit more tact from a diamond player.

Complaining about what? Champions that have too high winrate get nerfed, mages have too high winrate, time to nerf them :)

CatastropSep 22, 20151 votes

Yeah I get the need for nerfs on champions with high winrates. But look at the pick rates. Malzahar is picked waaay less than Ahri, like 5x way less. That Winrate is justifiable. Same for Karthus and Brand. The other mages I can understand the need for nerfs cuz look at the amount games they've been played with, each over 100k. So I guess what I'm trying to say, nerf the ones who need it, not the ones who are barely hanging onto viability.

Indominus BladeSep 23, 20151 votes

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Yeah I get the need for nerfs on champions with high winrates. But look at the pick rates. Malzahar is picked waaay less than Ahri, like 5x way less. That Winrate is justifiable. Same for Karthus and Brand. The other mages I can understand the need for nerfs cuz look at the amount games they've been played with, each over 100k. So I guess what I'm trying to say, nerf the ones who need it, not the ones who are barely hanging onto viability.

NO IT IS NOT. Rammus and amumu had a super low pick rate but a win rate of 55% and they got nerfed, same thing applies here. Mages need to be nerfed.

X Anivia XSep 27, 20151 votes

Unranked = you have no clue what their rank is. I guarantee you that there is at least one D1-Challenger Tier quality player out there who doesn't play ranked, because they don't want to deal with toxic people like you.

Poop JellySep 22, 20152 votes

That's a little too fast to make final conclusion. Mages are champions you have to think more about what you do instead of just going all in and expect to take an easy kill. This applies to all the roles, but mages have CC and damage, but they're squishy. I have more problems dealing with bruisers than with mages, tbh

Indominus BladeSep 22, 20151 votes

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That's a little too fast to make final conclusion. Mages are champions you have to think more about what you do instead of just going all in and expect to take an easy kill. This applies to all the roles, but mages have CC and damage, but they're squishy. I have more problems dealing with bruisers than with mages, tbh

It doesn't matter what you have trouble with, this thread is about factual statistics, Mages are too strong atm.

Meep ManSep 22, 20152 votes

Guys this isnt even a discussion, stop trying to discuss.

Meep ManSep 22, 20151 votes

Nice bait ya got here.

Indominus BladeSep 22, 20151 votes

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Nice bait ya got here.

Facts*

SSJTribeSep 22, 20151 votes

Bait*

X Anivia XSep 22, 20151 votes

As an Anivia main I resent this thread. There are quite a few mages that require skillshots. Hell, Anivia has one of (if not the) slowest projectiles in the game on her Q and her E animation, even though it is point and click, moves slowly enough a good Yasuo can throw up a windwall before it arrives. Or any champion that makes them untargetable can use that ability and get out of it Cough Zed Cough. There goes most of the damage and a long cooldown on the Q ahead. Not to mention the pathetic range. And the slowest champion in the game.
As for Ahri , she requires good positioning to land her full combo. Her E moves fairly slowly, and her W is somewhat unreliable if it is not timed perfectly and well within range. Here's the overall thing about mages. Most of them can be shut down early if you have any clue how to play against them. And mages tend to have expensive build paths too. And most are squishy. So if they are harassed/killed enough that they can't farm, they're pretty worthless for the rest of the game. So either you've been elo boosted and have no clue how to deal with a mage, or you're posting on your friend's account. Get burned by a bronzie, son. or in this case, Anivia item 3151 summoner 14 FREEZER BURNED. OR, perhaps you should actually PLAY a mage some time. You'll figure out they have weaknesses as you walk in thinking you can faceroll and then proceed to be on the wrong end of first blood.

Indominus BladeSep 22, 20151 votes

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As an main I resent this thread. There are quite a few mages that require skillshots. Hell, has one of (if not the) slowest projectiles in the game on her Q and her E animation, even though it is point and click, moves slowly enough a good can throw up a windwall before it arrives. Or any champion that makes them untargetable can use that ability and get out of it Cough Cough. There goes most of the damage and a long cooldown on the Q ahead. Not to mention the pathetic range. And the slowest champion in the game.
As for , she requires good positioning to land her full combo. Her E moves fairly slowly, and her W is somewhat unreliable if it is not timed perfectly and well within range. Here's the overall thing about mages. Most of them can be shut down early if you have any clue how to play against them. And mages tend to have expensive build paths too. And most are squishy. So if they are harassed/killed enough that they can't farm, they're pretty worthless for the rest of the game. So either you've been elo boosted and have no clue how to deal with a mage, or you're posting on your friend's account. Get burned by a bronzie, son. or in this case, FREEZER BURNED. OR, perhaps you should actually PLAY a mage some time. You'll figure out they have weaknesses as you walk in thinking you can faceroll and then proceed to be on the wrong end of first blood.

Every champion has strength and weaknesses, but not every champion has a high winrate. Mages have too high winrate, time to balance them to 50% or lower, time for nerfs.