my favorite thing about rift rivals is seeing all these low elo players play velkoz and win

NodirjonSattarov··1 votes·1,413 views

SINCE I CAN'T EDIT TITLE, I MEANT TWITCH RIVALS NOT RIFT RIVALS

the champion hasn't received a straight nerf in EVER. any reduced ratios and whatnot have resulted in a compensating buff or change in his abilities. this champion has NEVER been nerfed. now, i'm not saying nerf for the sake of nerfing but the amount of true damage he does is actually insane. this champion is entirely skill shot oriented so his win rate should be lower than what it is right now. the issue is that since his abilities have slowly been in inflated over the years, the player playing velkoz has to land less abilites than before and simply combos upon knock up. his passive lasts 7 seconds, hasn't ever been changed. why does it even need to be 7 seconds since he can stack it with 2 abilities alone. you land knock up, you land his 2 fissures and boom, true damage. he is just cancerous as a support. he is an artillery mage that plays like a burst mage. when I think of true artillery mage I think of AP Kog'Maw that had to land 6-7 consecutive ults to kill you. Vel'koz lands his knock up, "lands" fissure, gets passive true damage, Q then R. There isn't any whittling down nonsense. Riot is vehemently against that because it's not fun.

Artillery champions need to be punishes for misplacement. Just think about how a tank would behave if I was within arms reach. It wouldn't be able to shoot me, it could probably run me over but I move faster. There needs to be a min range for his knock up OR reduced knock up duration/remove true damage stack for landing it within X units. Give this champion a proper nerf. Not fun to play against.

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Noor Sakata2 votes

Let's see Ahri , and others Why do you complain about ever single pick that happens to be good against Ryze ? At least hey ! You said it yourself , he needs to land skillshots, unlike some other champion

NodirjonSattarov1 votes

It's you again, you don't seem to leave. If I complained about a 60% win rate champion you would still come to me and say that I shouldn't be complaining. I really wish people would play Ryze to see how "strong" he supposedly is because maybe you're right, maybe I suck ass with Ryze.

Why do you complain about ever single pick that happens to be good against Ryze ?

Because every single midlane pick IS good against Ryze. He has the lowest winrate out of the entire midlane roster.

theChibiTina1 votes

Ryze is kept in the dirt because of how well he does in pro play. Riot has even stated they've given up trying to balance him between pro play and solo queue. He's weak in solo queue because you don't get the level of coordination from your team like you do in pro play for him to be good there. It's sad because I think Ryze is a really cool champion too.

MrHaZeYo1 votes

Theirs a rift rivals going on?

NodirjonSattarov1 votes

my bad, twitch rivals

FioraWillCarry1 votes

Twitch Rivals. Finals today.

Death by Glamour1 votes

They need to hit his mana costs, watching him spam spells in botlane while his manabar stays above half truely is a sight to behold.

Kivolan1 votes

So I have no idea what Twitch rivals is, but I will say as a Vel main that he feels weaker the higher you climb in elo. He gets shut down extremely easily by the incredibly mobile / bursty roster that League has these days.

As you said as well, he's completely skillshot based so higher ranked opponents know how to dodge things a little better than those in lower elos.

NodirjonSattarov1 votes

Any champion feels "weaker" as you climb elo though, it's not just Vel'Koz.

Kivolan1 votes

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Any champion feels "weaker" as you climb elo though, it's not just Vel'Koz.

Not true at all. Vel's win rate, on average, tends to lower as you climb in elo.

A lot of champions have high skill caps or large learning curves. Khazix and LeeSin , for instance, have win rates that generally increase with elo.

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