Similar effects, but different characters. You have a powerful utility spell coming from someone who does substantial cleave and single target damage during a teamfight through simply right clicking with ricochet and a Q skillshot.
The other tends to gravitate toward the support role, getting little in the way of damage items and occasionally boosting her team's speed to a similar level.
I'd rather have the Sivir myself, as that opens the option for another support that provides different types of utility, but that's just me.
point taken although Im not too fond of it.
ultimates should feel unique with effects unavailable on any other character imo. This (while maybe opening up new composition options) is ultimately a betrayal of that concept
I mean sivir's ult also gives her like 60% attack speed or something ridiculous.
It's while Ricochet is active.
pls give sivir a new ult rito it's crap
I fail to see the point. Is it the cooldowns? Then you are probably assuming their power budget is otherwise equal. Maybe it isn't.
im not saying anything.
im just :thinking: outloud here
Karma: 1.5 seconds Sivir: 8 seconds, full effect for first couple seconds (2.5 at least if I recall)