Can Quinn Get Her +2 AD Back?

Simply Nora·8/2/2016, 4:22:10 AM·26 votes·2,541 views

So in patch 5.24 Quinn starting AD was reduced from 56 to 54. Since then, on patch 6.6 Quinn received even further nerfs. She currently sits at around 1% playrate and 50% winrate. I think it's safe to say that Quinn's rework was a complete failure. Just like before rework, no one plays her now. I personally think Quinn needs a bigger buff, but I don't want to ask for too much and risk complete rejection. Just pls at least give Quinn back her +2 AD. Can a rioter at least give their opinion on the current state of Quinn? According to Riot, is Quinn in a healthy state?

50 Comments

KestrelGirl8/2/2016, 4:28:28 AM11 votes

This, please! And fix her brand new bugs with E and ult too while you're at it. :P

Peel Your ADC8/2/2016, 6:54:32 AM7 votes

I say buff her even more so that random cc like jhin's W or iceborn fields don't cancel ults =/

Zedex8/2/2016, 5:11:21 PM5 votes

I used to love playing her, but lost all hope when Riot didn't listen to any feedback on her rework. Her problem before was that she was super niche and only a good counter to tilt melee top laners. She's basically the same thing now, just less effective because they clipped valor's wings when they changed her ultimate.

Lady Hammerlock8/2/2016, 9:57:29 AM4 votes

She is most definitely not a healthy champion,kind of why she CANT get any buffs

PermabannedGaren8/2/2016, 5:59:52 PM3 votes

To be fair, Irelia is pretty much the God Queen of top lane right now, and she also is one of the few melees who fucking SHITS on Quinn at every stage of the game. Quinn isn't bad, but the meta is pretty hostile to her right now. Yasuo is also both popular and strong right now, and he too dicks on Quinn. Same with Gangplank.

So despite the fact that the three of the most popular top laners shit all over Quinn's hopes and dreams, she has a 51% win rate. That's not bad. You can probably thank Darius' popularity for that lol.

TenshouSNK8/2/2016, 7:39:03 AM3 votes

I don't know but whenever I pick her I get flamed, "gg troll" "bad pick" "we lost this now" etc etc.

She is balanced so why do you want to touch Quinn? The issue at hand is that people don't want to dedicate time to learn a unique champ with a different play-style, it has nothing to do with the champ's strength in the meta.

6.17 might buff Quinn and some other marksman, keep your fingers crossed but I highly doubt it since she is balanced.

Simply Nora8/3/2016, 11:50:56 PM2 votes

@RiotRepertoir don't forget about Quinn yet, pls.

Vesarixx8/3/2016, 9:48:09 PM2 votes

I'm all for higher base damages, also if they could bring back the old animation for the ult that would be cool, even just as an option, it looked a lot better.

ItLooms8/2/2016, 11:09:38 AM2 votes

She is countered by the current meta. Tanks and tank items. She dies easily to ganks because she has zero escapes.

I do think the +2 AD is a good start. Giving her passive some armor penetration would help her laning against tanks. I mean you have to take a look at some of the top laners:

Illaoi - can build full tank, has percent health damage, a dumb 1v5 machine Maokai - full tank, lot of CC, gap close, percent health damage Darius - can build tank has true damage Garen - full tank, true damage - Jesus Christ Chogath - passive buffs his health, makes him tanky + true damage Irealia - true damage Fiora - true damage Olaf - True damage

Both tanks and anti-tanks have true damage to be viable in top lane. So giving some armorpenetration to help Quinn is not over the top in my opinion.

Best Valor NA8/3/2016, 11:53:04 PM2 votes

Tbh as a Quinn main, I love her right now, everyone still underestimates her and I never lose a lane as her. She snowballs hella hardt oo.

Btw talking about botlane. I still dominate in other lanes aswel.

DunkinNoobs8/2/2016, 9:41:11 AM2 votes

I'm fairly certain that getting Quinns playrate as low as it is means the rework is a success, not a failure.

UnbeatablePlayer8/5/2016, 1:29:06 AM1 votes

Quinn is the ultimate lane bully, she has serious problems and does not need buffs. Either a complete rework or nerfs because she is a complete fucking cancer champ

ABlueQuaker8/2/2016, 10:18:36 AM1 votes

Not to mention how fucking toxic her Q is now.

Riot refused to fix original Quinn because it would be too strong, so Riot reworked her, made her way too strong, then nerfed her anyway.

I Go Pew Pew Pew8/2/2016, 11:41:53 AM1 votes

Yes, Quinn has a 50% win rate. BUT, that's because her average games played is extremely low. Quinn mains actually have about 55% win rate. That's for top.

Her ADC winrate is ranked #2.

I don't think Quinn needs buffs.

HaloDragonX8/2/2016, 2:22:41 PM1 votes

Can Kayle have her 5 AD back? So she can clearly the jungle in a reasonable time.

zlumpy8/2/2016, 4:33:20 PM1 votes

Gotta say atm as a low elo support main, everytime I see an adc pick her I get a little frustrated. They usually don't play her right then rage at me for not saving them everytime. I actually kinda like it when jungle or top takes Quinn though. It makes for a fun change of pace seeing her used in those roles on my team.

But as an adc she just feels like she is missing something. Probably just my bad experiences with lane partners that are more easily critiqued.

Youre Outta Luxx8/2/2016, 4:44:51 PM1 votes

Agreed, she's just too outshined by the bruiser meta.

I played a game against a Fiora who rushed Ninja Tabi, and with that item alone, my damage to her was laughable.

ChíckenDaddy8/2/2016, 4:47:23 PM1 votes

As a Quinn main while that sounds great I honestly think she is a bit to strong (look at past patch winrates) and the only reason they don't nerf her is the small player base.As soon as she starts getting played everyone will complain and shell probally get nerfed, sense when she is talked about its how cancer Quinn is.

SwiftKitten888/2/2016, 5:17:35 PM1 votes

ok? back in season 4 nid had to her AD reduced from 54 to 48 because her top lane was oppressive and she had her attack speed reduced as well.

this never got reverted this when they threw her into the jungle and she hasn't been able to lane for 2 seasons.

riot doesn't take these things into consideration at all.

and besides Quinn IS strong