Leona currently has a higher winrate than any ADC. I'm not saying she's OP, just that many people can clearly greatly influence the game outcome on her. A good support can carry a game just as hard as a mid or adc even if not by damage.
Pika3107 votesLeona winning a lot you say? No need to worry, Riot knows exactly how to deal with this issue:
#BetterNerfSona
That'll teach all those Leona players a thing or 2!
Tin Tarantino4 votesthis post gave me the sad
SexyTaylorSwift1 votesThank you for actually saying something that makes sense and not "post gave me cancer".
A little Peepo2 votesLOL xD so true
League of Potato2 votesI don't think you understand what it means to "carry" a game. It literally means the only reason your team won, is because you "carried" them to victory. I'm not saying that Leona is a bad champion or anything, but as a support the only thing she really has going for her is her tankiness, and the player's ability to land the ult, and to stun. If you are actually building the way a support is supposed to build, you will not be able to "carry" a game. (Unless you consider you saving your team's ass all game as carrying...which most support mains have those games quite often..and get absolutely no credit for it..So I can understand that view point) I must point out that there's a difference between carrying your team and saving your team all game.
Sightless662 votesWhen I'm playing Leona, I start every fight, decide which bitch on the enemy team dies next, and ensure that they can't escape. I carry my teammates into the fight and into the enemy's faces. That's as much "carrying" them to victory as anyone else on the team does. I don't save shit. I murder people.
Kitten of Evil2 votes"I don't save shit. I murder people."
At best, you're an accomplice to murder.
Sightless662 votesIf I'm the one who decides who dies, when they die, and how they die, that's not accomplice, that's murder, plain and simple. A court would find me guilty in the first-degree.
Kitten of Evil1 votesAccomplices are charged as though they were principals! Anyway I digress, I've been studying for the bar exam v.v
Sightless661 votesCorrect me if I'm wrong though, but being the person who orders a murder is still considered murder even if you aren't the one who actively kills someone. In the case of directed murder and contracted killing and things like that, I think people aren't considered accomplices, but as primary actors. I might be wrong, but that's what I'd been lead to believe.
League of Potato1 votesCriminal Justice major chiming in, you're wrong, you're only considered a murderer if you commit murder, which by definition is killing someone with the intent to kill them (not by accident, or self-defense, or any other reason you could possibly come up with). You are the accomplice to murder if you help plan the act itself, but not contribute to the murder in any other way than planning it. If you help in the actual murder however, you are also considered a murder (which is what I'm assuming you're trying to imply). So yes you would be considered a murderer if you helped attack them.
I'm not saying leona is a bad champion, nor should you build as a support all the time (there are instances where you have to build differently) but for the most part (except for maybe you, along with a few others) supports aren't gunna be doing much carrying in games in terms of leading the team to victory. (Also when a support tries to carry at the start of the game, it usually ends in the adc getting bitchy and afking or trolling...not that they wouldn't have done that in the first place, but besides the fact, if you go into a match as a support, unless it is necessary to act as something different, you should stick to your word).
It doesn't matter how good your focus is, if your teammates are a bunch of idiots you probably won't be carrying them to victory as a support. That's the sad truth. Unless you're using champions that provide massive pressure on the map, along with possible stacking that makes them great supports along with a great threat normally cough
. Correct me if I'm wrong, but for the most part, when building the way a support normally does;
choose one of the 3 items..
Then you have whatever boots you want to buy, along with maybe 2 items of your choice
it doesn't leave much room for building to carry. Also taking into account runes and masteries, it really depends on the champion I choose for support, along with the team I match up with, but 9 times out of 10 I've found building the way a support should build (meaning building for saving people's asses rather than building for straight damage) will help win more games.
I always like to plan for the worst, so even when doing shitty, I'm still helpful to the team, where if you build for damage, and it's not enough, you might end up being completely worthless. But that's just my point-of-view, if going straight aggro is your way to succeed, who am I to tell you to do anything different, I'm definitely no expert to this game, nor will I ever be.
Sightless661 votesIt doesn't matter how good your focus is, if your teammates are a bunch of idiots you probably won't be carrying them to victory as a support.
Oh yes I will. There is no better way to win then being the guy who decides when someone dies. If everyone on my team is an idiot, then I need to be able to make the decisions for them so they can't fuck it up. Who can do that? Support. Who can take the choice to feed out of their hands? Support. Who can screw the enemies by keeping them down and putting a big "KILL ME NOW" sign on their heads? Support. Best role for carrying in my opinion.
And yeah, I might not win every game, but you can't say that of any class. If your teammates are pants-on-head retarded, you're fucked with anyone. I win much more often on a support. It's so easy to carry.
Also, just to make sure I'm not giving out misinformation, I do this carrying while still building no damage (unless it's someone like Vel'Koz or Zyra who does build damage). Full tank and support builds all the way.
SexyTaylorSwift1 votesThat bitch ties them down and hands her carry the knife. Accomplice my butt.
Angry Monster2 voteswin rates are misleading. Less OP (but strong) champs usually have core followers that know how to use the champ. They are not FOTM types.
Win rates really do not mean much.
Supports are important though.
TeemoJenkins1 votesLeona doesn't carry, she enables your team to win. I have over a 60% win rate with her because she's great in lane, scales well into every phase of the game. At no point do stuns / roots / AOE stun and slows become irrelevant. Now we just need a Legendary skin for her and I'll be a happy man
Live2LetDie1 votesBest Support game i ever played was as thresh. My ADC admit in draft that he has never played adc, this is plat, so picked sivir. We played a braum and vayne lane and just made the most godly hooks and flays and basically one us the game to where my sivir bought the sight stone because she was usless. Another great memory is playing annie support with my duo and our mid lane fizz died 4 times in the first ten mins. He was usless and he knew it so to compensate, since we were destroying bot lane, he opted to buying the sightstone while i built pure damage and carried to victory. AKA a support can always carry as long as the team adjusts to the better player.
Tin Tarantino1 votesI had a Sona game a while ago where I went heavy AP after sightstone and got a better KDA than my ADC and top laner, the enemy team was raging at thier fizz at the end for dying to me so much. It was a weird game overall, was vs an AD Teemo
Pika3102 votesIn general, the majority of my Sona games I quite often ended with most kills, assists and gold. Double and triple kills in bot lane were par the course.
Then she took a rework to the knee.
AMYS GRAVE1 votesgetting kills =!= carrying, you need to be the playmaker. leona cc can carry, clutch wards can carry, good turret sieges can carry, etc...
Raja Chachki1 votesWhenever I play Anivia or Annie, eventually I just leave lane(after helping ADC for awhile) and try to get my own kills. The fact that I don't upgrade my support item(even sell it late game) means that I have so much more gold than using money on it. I usually carry my ADC out of the laning phase(not meaning to, but I often get more kills than my ADC). A lot of times I get raged at by my ADC because they say: NO U FAG I NEED KILLS/CS. And my team just backs me up saying: Hey a 5/2/11 Anivia is definitely better than a 1/3/5 Jinx.