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A thanks to riot for juggernauts

BeMyFriendPlease·Oct 4, 2015·5 votes·573 views

The game was so boring for YEARS without them

Too much thinking and strategizing of multiple things.

Thank you riot for stepping in, taking champions, and making them new champions, and also defining metas for us!

Please continue to do this. You know best! We are all sheep who know nothing compared to your genius, and your new champions that are balanced beyond what we can comprehend, it is in no way because the new champions are so strong that an entire team composition is needed to counter them I can't WAIT to see the next batch of champions you rework to have innovative and fair kits that are fun to play and play against

I'd ALSO like to say thanks on behalf of everyone who mains the champions you rework. I'm sure they agree on the incredible balance that has counterplay you give each champion while "embodying their identity" and all that other jazz they love alongside us!

PS: Increase the champ select ban counter by however many champions you continue to rework.

PSS: I don't even watch worlds, so before people think that has anything to do with it... it doesn't! I'm talking for the other 99.98% of the community

14 Comments

BrascusOct 4, 20153 votes

3 wins 11 loses with Darius composition, seems pretty risky to me in worlds

BeMyFriendPleaseOct 4, 20151 votes

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3 wins 11 loses with Darius composition, seems pretty risky to me in worlds

I , specifically said it has nothing to do with worlds!

Amazing right? Almost as if a team of pros can pick around a champion unlike solo que.

and nothing to do with needing an entire team composition based on shitting them down

19902013RIP KiraOct 4, 20152 votes

To be honest garen was good but you people were saying "omg garen silence OP garen speed OP"

When both of this things got nerfed in her rework...

That alone show us the mentality of boards.........

Morde? yeah he was an abomination....

Skarner? i blame PBE but riot tuned him down and now he is balanced and better champion with better kit that he was...

Darius? I blame boards again darius was good but Boards was crying that he is to "weak" and riot buff him and now you have an abomination

So dont blame riot blame your self because riot release champs with balanced kit and then people cry riot buff them to stop the crying and the champs end up OP becuase they were already strong without the buffs

So why you blame riot? and not boards and your self?

DrNovaOct 4, 20151 votes

Riot doesn't listen to these boards nor do they balance based on these boards.

19902013RIP KiraOct 4, 20151 votes

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Riot doesn't listen to these boards nor do they balance based on these boards.

They do special with the garen/morde/skarner/darius rework every designer was lisent boards and were explain why they do what they do but they were getting downvote to oblivion and people were asking for more buffs

So who are to blame......

SEKAIOct 4, 20151 votes

Let's be frank, Juggernauts is a step in the right direction, they just need to control it better, with better fleshed out champ releases that make sense to their original identity.

BeMyFriendPleaseOct 4, 20151 votes

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Let's be frank, Juggernauts is a step in the right direction, they just need to control it better, with better fleshed out champ releases that make sense to their original identity.

This would indeed be true if Riot didn't know better than all of us little mindless sheep who don't understand their genius balance. After all, think of all the posts riot replied to to step in and talk to people instead of just say what they think and leave? :D

It's a step in the right direction.... if every champion in the game is reworked to be the same way..... so give it 20-30 years

SEKAIOct 4, 20151 votes

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This would indeed be true if Riot didn't know better than all of us little mindless sheep who don't understand their genius balance. After all, think of all the posts riot replied to to step in and talk to people instead of just say what they think and leave? :D

It's a step in the right direction.... if every champion in the game is reworked to be the same way..... so give it 20-30 years

Problem is, mobility creep is a really troubling thing that has been destroying this game, and Juggernauts were made to solve that.

Their problem is that after leaving them mobility creeps completely unchecked for so long, they're now forced to come up a solution real fast, and as always, they dun fk up.

I mean trying to bring back the counter trinity is great and all, but just like I said, all they need to do is get better organised.

BeMyFriendPleaseOct 4, 20151 votes

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Problem is, mobility creep is a really troubling thing that has been destroying this game, and Juggernauts were made to solve that.

Their problem is leaving them creeps completely unchecked for so long, and now they're forced to come up a solution real fast, and as always, they dun fk up.

I mean trying to bring back the counter trinity is great and all, but just like I said, all they need to do is get better organised.

So wait, instead of fixing mobility creep by, let's say... I don't know

ADDING TRADE OFFS FOR MOBILITY

We make immobile champions so strong you need more mobility to handle them? Is this really what riot thinks? xD

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To be honest garen was good but you people were saying "omg garen silence OP garen speed OP"

When both of this things got nerfed in her rework...

That alone show us the mentality of boards.........

Morde? yeah he was an abomination....

Skarner? i blame PBE but riot tuned him down and now he is balanced and better champion with better kit that he was...

Darius? I blame boards again darius was good but Boards was crying that he is to "weak" and riot buff him and now you have an abomination

So dont blame riot blame your self because riot release champs with balanced kit and then people cry riot buff them to stop the crying and the champs end up OP becuase they were already strong without the buffs

So why you blame riot? and not boards and your self?

Riot reworked garen not "us people"

Morde got reworked by riot. not "us people"

Skarner got reworked by riot. not "us people" (i do like his free gold pillars)

Darius got reworked by riot. not "us people" unless you mean his mains that said he didn't have sustain so they gave it to him because why the fuck not. If riot listened to the VERY FEW posts saying he was weak instead of the SEVERAL who bitch about him being so strong you either need god tier teamwork or an entire kiting team.... I'm sure they wouldn't buff him.

Why do I blame riot?

Maybe because THEY ARE THE ONES DOING THE BUFFING AND REWORKS WITHOUT APPEARING ON A SINGLE THREAD ABOUT THEIR BELOVED DECISIONS BEYOND TELLING US WHY THEY'RE RIGHT

To be honest, I understand running a game is hard, but changing things and basically saying "it's because we know best and it's hard" isn't an excuse to change things the way they do... which is sad that they choose to do it.

SEKAIOct 4, 20151 votes

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So wait, instead of fixing mobility creep by, let's say... I don't know

ADDING TRADE OFFS FOR MOBILITY

We make immobile champions so strong you need more mobility to handle them? Is this really what riot thinks? xD

Well I personally don't think having polar champ philosophies of "agile and can get around stuff" and "immobile but kills anything within reach" is bad, I mean, diversity and all.

As long as no side is clearly superior than the other, I have no issue with it.

EDIT: But yes, I agree on the part where you say they should start including mobility into a champ's actual power budget and starting giving dashes/blinks drawbacks. You're 100% correct there.

DrNovaOct 4, 20151 votes

How do you propose that?

Already a ton of champs have mobility one way or another, they can't go through and rework every one. That time has come and gone.

19902013RIP KiraOct 4, 20151 votes

Morde wasent even 50% strong as he is right now he was balanced in PBE but everyone was saying that morde sucks so riot buff him AND EVERY POST ON BOARDS was "MORDE SUCKS RIOT WTF" so dont pretend.....so riot put him solo extra XP they put him more power and bla bla and he become an abomination......

Same with darius

SAME WITH SKARNER THAT ALL THE FREAKING POSTS WAS "Omg skarner sucks he only got rock" because nobody was bothering to play him out....

Garen was balanced and you SAYING THat he was having OP stats WHEN THE THINGS THAT YOU PEOPLE COMPLAIN about was the things that riot nerf in the first place

So yeah i blame YOU for the abominations!!

Like back when yasuo was first came "OMG RITO YASUO SUCKS" every god damn post then riot buff yasuo because they think that the champ was bad and guess what happen 100% ban ratio in every single ELO

So yeah riot create a champ and they take feedback riot are not pro players riot are creators and they give out champs people test them if every single person says that the champ is bad because they dotn bother test it or because you are A SHEEP that say that he is bad because someone else say that this champ is bad the riot is like ok guys we need to tune him up AND THEN PEOPLE PLAY HIM AND REALIZE that the champion is broken because he was already strong in the first place

SO YOU ARE THE SHEEP and you are the one who need to blame for the abomination that hit the live servers from time to time

PassionlipOct 4, 20151 votes

Sesh, was expecting an interesting post, another whine.

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