Whenever i read a nerf Yasuo post

Oakleaf Ranger·Sep 18, 2016·8 votes·626 views

I suck at positioning, trading, and playing against champions who I can't just spam my abilities against capabilities.

RITO NERF PLS

11 Comments

GULAG 4 USep 18, 20162 votes

Beware, the QQers might throw their bullshit nonsense arguments here and proceed to downvote.

I mean seriously, counterplay is spamming all your skills so the guy insta dies, and if this doesn't work, the champion must be annoying to face and cancer. Counterplay is QQing until the champion is trash, /kappa

Divine 0megaOct 12, 20161 votes

Yasuo is either over powered or balanced at a given point in time. Because of how Phantom dancer works now, hes become more of a duelist in the top lane which is a problem. Hes supposed to be a high skill cap champ who relies on his windwall and ultimate for kills. The problem with yas is the amount of armor pen he gets from his ult and the fact that he has so much dps while building as an off tank. It's okay for him to have doulbe Crit seeing as it does reduced damage and he is melee. Whats not okay is how long he can hold on to his hurricane and the fact that he doesnt have to land it as a skill shot to get his ult. Its also not okay that he gets free armor pen without building armor pen. A ttank that can dps the hell out of you is very toxic. As a melee carry he has to outplay his opponent and use items like item 3140 item 3156 for survivablity and outplay potential. But when he builds crit items that reduce damage taken and goes into building item 3022 it takes all weakness from his kit. He no longer relies on dashes and can't be stopped from split pushing by your tank top laner. Its very unhealthy. I think yasuo is balanced, but the items and masteries that he can use are not, thus making him broken. It is annoying to play against him, but usually around mid game if he hasn't gotten kills, a little team work and cc can shut him out( unless he has malph, or wukong). The biggest problem with yas is that a tank shouldn't deal Bps(Burst per second) and early game his shield is absolutely obnoxious and makes trading imaginary. True you can pop it with an auto but getting in range of yas is dangerous for most champions, and he is strong against the majority of tops and mids in the game. sorry for misspellings

Ruin LanceOct 12, 20161 votes

"burst per second" you lost any credibility you had right there. tank yasuo is not a thing anymore so stop pretending like it is.

Divine 0megaOct 12, 20161 votes

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PermabannedGarenOct 12, 20162 votes

[{quoted}](name=AG Omega,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1JsdXwEm,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2016-10-12T23:12:43.768+0000)

Why is that, because the slightly nerfed frozen mallet?

No, because he has to actually build a significant amount of damage items to do damage now, due to his ult's bonus armour pen only applying to critical strikes.

item 3078 item 3022 item 3111 item 3026 item 3068 item 3053

This was "tank" Yasuo. Notice the absence of crit and how every item provides a fairly substantial amount of defense, with the Triforce's 250 HP being the lowest amount of defense the build has.

item 3046 item 3022 item 3111 item 3072 item 3031 item 3026

This is Yasuo's current meta top lane build. Notice that it is packed with much more damage and less durability than the above build, which is because he needs to build AD to really benefit from the crit he builds. GA is the only purely defensive item, and the Infinity Edge provides no defense at all.

This is a perfectly fine Yasuo build that gives him a good amount of damage and some survivability, but he's not the 3,500 health 200 resistances monster he was with the above build.

Divine 0megaOct 12, 20161 votes

True but phantom dancers passive does make him alot harder for someone to to duel and frozen mallet removes the need for him to go through minions. On top of that i never see any yas build Infinity edge. Like i said below I dont really care much about yas but if you look at his kit as a whole with the amount of damage he has, it is quite overwhelming. My only real complaint is the fact yas can aa inside of his ult. Why is that a thing?

PermabannedGarenOct 12, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=AG Omega,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1JsdXwEm,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2016-10-12T23:26:54.420+0000)

True but phantom dancers passive does make him alot harder for someone to to duel and frozen mallet removes the need for him to go through minions. On top of that i never see any yas build Infinity edge. Like i said below I dont really care much about yas but if you look at his kit as a whole with the amount of damage he has, it is quite overwhelming. My only real complaint is the fact yas can aa inside of his ult. Why is that a thing?

Yasuo's kit has very little damage in it, lol. Almost all of his damage comes from items, and his steroids only amplifies the damage from the items he builds, they don't add to it.

Darius is a champion who has a lot of damage built into his kit. Even Tryndamere has more damage built in.

Also, is Yasuo hard to duel? Sure. He's a melee carry. They tend to be the best duelists.

He's still one of the worst melee carries at dueling.

Divine 0megaOct 13, 20161 votes

Darius and trynd dont have infinite mobility. And his dueling potential with the right items and masteries is enormous.

PermabannedGarenOct 13, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=AG Omega,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1JsdXwEm,comment-id=0001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-10-13T05:57:09.897+0000)

Darius and trynd dont have infinite mobility. And his dueling potential with the right items and masteries is enormous.

Yasuo also doesn't have infinite mobility. Or is being limited to minion waves or having a six second cooldown on the same target infinite to you?

Yeah it's pretty good.

He still gets stomped by Tryndamere, Master Yi, or Jax, for example.

Divine 0megaOct 12, 20161 votes

Why is that, because the slightly nerfed frozen mallet? And yes I said Burst per second. a consistent 1000 damage on an auto is quite powerful with that much utility, not to mention the armor pen from his ult. Even if he is full carry, playing against yas can still be quite toxic. But even if he only goes 2 tank items or just a maw he has a ton of survivability . While smashing your face in. I personally don't mind yasou in my games but if you look at his kit and numbers as a whole its quite silly.

Ruin LanceOct 13, 20161 votes

1000 damage on an auto

not even close. against champions you'll deal probably around ~400-500 if they have no armor assuming you're playing full damage/carry build.

tank yasuo was significantly nerfed and definitely no longer viable. it also doesn't do much damage.

clearly you have not the slightest idea what you're talking about, and it's pretty clear that you're also a blind yasuo hater, whether you admit it or not.