Attack speed runes are like crack in this game

Ben Sharpio··21 votes·2,201 views

How can i fix this? I can't even play the game when i take them off, i attack so slow... and i feel so useless...... but when i have them on, i feel so confident in fights, and i feel so...comfortable. I know there's better runes out there, but ever since i got onto them, i haven't been able to live without them. someone plz help and share you experiences how can i fix this problem that i have

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Wheatloaf7 votes

As a mid player, I can't relate to this at all. No, sir...

slowly sweeps the scaling cdr glyphs under the rug

Spoofghoul1 votes

might be good now though

depending on starting base ad and scaling base ad

because your aa vs towers is stronger now with ap so the attackspeed will help you kill them quicker in addition to helping with farm

HenryDahNewb4 votes

I get addicted to movement speed quints because I don't feel as fastsummoner 6

Sun Wukong Sun4 votes

I use 29% AS speed runes on a lot of champs. But if you see the damage you do with 19 armor pen on any champ with passive armor pen Darius JarvanIV MonkeyKing Sion Jayce Nasus or 45% bonus crit damage on Tryndamere with item 3031 [zombie-nunu-hearts]

Arakadia3 votes

Im addicted to Crack

How can i fix this? I can't live when im not on it, i act so slow... and i feel so useless...... but when i have them on, i feel so confident in life, and i feel so...comfortable. I know there's help out there, but ever since i got onto them, i haven't been able to live without them. someone plz help and share you experiences how can i fix this problem that i have

Nekusen2 votes

buy item 1042 as first item

xxxDogmanxxx2 votes

Try Armor Penetration Runes. You lose the feeling of attacking so often, but then you notice that your attacks suddenly chunk huge bars of HP from the enemy. It's addicting!

Spoofghoul1 votes

Yea its what i do aswell

its not that strong early on but after first back when you get item 3134 its just daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayumn im chunking hard now

Tychusfindlay9191 votes

Darius I use a mix of flat AD runes and Scaling AD runes. This allows me to retain some early pressure while not entirely sacrificing later game relevance.

Still keeps me comfortable in trades and with CSing. I mean if seeing the attack animation more makes you more comfortable than chunking the shit out of someone with just one hit then whatever lol.

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

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Darius I use a mix of flat AD runes and Scaling AD runes. This allows me to retain some early pressure while not entirely sacrificing later game relevance.

Still keeps me comfortable in trades and with CSing. I mean if seeing the attack animation more makes you more comfortable than chunking the shit out of someone with just one hit then whatever lol.

attack speed is really good on darius. way better that the 7 ad or so you get from ad quints.

Tychusfindlay9191 votes

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attack speed is really good on darius. way better that the 7 ad or so you get from ad quints.

It's not really good, micromanaging Q and W AA resets is how darius stacks. Not attack speed. And you get way more than 7 AD. I get over 20 come later game.

Don't try and feed bullshit.

MunchCrunchLunch7 votes

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It's not really good, micromanaging Q and W AA resets is how darius stacks. Not attack speed. And you get way more than 7 AD. I get over 20 come later game.

Don't try and feed bullshit.

lol ok its not like darius highest winrate runes involve getting attack speed runes.

Tychusfindlay9191 votes

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lol ok its not like darius highest winrate runes involve getting attack speed runes.

Dyrus uses AD runes. I find AD runes to be successful.

lol ok have fun in gold.

MunchCrunchLunch4 votes

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Dyrus uses AD runes. I find AD runes to be successful.

lol ok have fun in gold.

sorry mr. challenger. looks like you've been using DQ to boost yourself to plat 5

S5 barely played ranked.

S6 platinum

great job sir. i dont need someone higher than my elo to duo trio with to rank up. am perfectly fine where i am.

something is called op.gg where we can tell if you've been duoing/trioing with people and your overall stats. am not an idiot.

Tychusfindlay9192 votes

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sorry mr. challenger. looks like you've been using DQ to boost yourself to plat 5

S5 barely played ranked.

S6 platinum

great job sir.

I really got into this game hardly a year ago. I'm speaking here on the forums on my main account, this account. I'm simply naturally good at this game because I transitioned to this game from Starcraft, one of the most, if not the most intensive RTS games in the entire industry. Starcraft introduced me to and strengthened my general macro and micro skillsets. It taught everything from map awareness to scouting and vision prioritization and unit micromanagement (Except in starcraft instead of having one hero you generally have to deal with 100+ unit armies with differing units).

My name is rooted in SC anyways if that wasn't a big hint.

Thank you. And I mostly play solo queue but that's besides the point. This account is relatively new in terms of how much time I've put in it. I climbed from bronze to plat mostly by myself. You're stuck low tier gold with your AS Darius runes.

AD scales with every single ability he has outside of his E which does not deal damage. AS scales with nothing other than getting his passive off slightly faster.

Once again, I use AD, and Dyrus uses AD.

Sites like champion.gg and whatnot review ME as a platinum player when it comes to top Darius builds utilized by the top 8-10% of league players in this region. You're merely but a talker who is ultimately just in low gold.

I understand the jealousy against someone who started season 6 in bronze and climbed easily up to plat before the season even came close to ending, but you're taking it a bit far with your projecting ;)

MunchCrunchLunch2 votes

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Thank you. And if you looked at my profile, you'd see that I do not have a dynamic queue preference since I mostly play solo queue. This account is relatively new in terms of how much time I've put in it. I climbed from bronze to plat mostly by myself. You're stuck low tier gold with your AS Darius runes.

AD scales with every single ability he has outside of his E which does not deal damage. AS scales with nothing other than getting his passive off slightly faster.

Once again, I use AD, and Dyrus uses AD.

Sites like champion.gg and whatnot review ME as a platinum player when it comes to top Darius builds utilized by the top 8-10% of league players in this region. You're merely but a talker who is ultimately just in low gold.

I understand the jealousy against someone who started season 6 in bronze and climbed easily up to plat before the season even came close to ending, but you're taking it a bit far with your projecting ;)

lmao. sure you can go on to play solo for a few matches to get the solo badge doesn't mean anything. you duo with people that are better than you according to op.gg.

your rank doesn't mean anything as long as you have duo-trio queued with friends. unless your saying the website is lying.

you played 11 out of the last 20 games with another person and you've obviously played mostly solo. get the hell outta here

Tychusfindlay9191 votes

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lmao. sure you can go on to play solo for a few matches to get the solo badge doesn't mean anything. you duo with people that are better than you according to op.gg.

your rank doesn't mean anything as long as you have duo-trio queued with friends. unless your saying the website is lying.

you played 11 out of the last 20 games with another person and you've obviously played mostly solo. get the hell outta here

Oh you mean Matt521 or Kippy or RikuPlz or any of those other friends who reached platinum AFTER me (hell, Kippy and Riku aren't even plat and those are the main accounts)? Uh huh.

Get the hell outta here jealous ass.

And Matt521 doesn't even have a smurf so keep on trying little fellah.

BTW, edited the quote in your post, feel free to smack your head reading the finalized post.

And of course, there is the classic feel free to 1v1 me, even if it only tests your micromanagement and nothing else (build order prioritization, map awareness, map pressure, team building etc.).

NineTailedMystic2 votes

Quite the superiority complex you have there.

YouLostMe2 votes

Well, he was accused of being boosted. It's not like the conversation started with him screaming "1 V 1 ME BRUH".

Tychusfindlay9191 votes

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Well, he was accused of being boosted. It's not like the conversation started with him screaming "1 V 1 ME BRUH".

Exactly, the guy just randomly wanted to jump on me while saying random shit like "the 7 AD you get from AD runes" even though the maxed amount of AD from my current runes surpasses 20 late game.

shrug

NineTailedMystic1 votes

It's primarily the "Get out of here jealous ass." "I understand the jealousy against someone...". And neither of them are right. They're fighting over something as petty as personal preference for Runes, and one of them rank shames the other.

Tychusfindlay9191 votes

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Quite the superiority complex you have there.

Am I saying anything to you? A superiority complex would have me comparing myself to all of you, I'm just comparing myself to the guy who accused me of being boosted.

Scary Door3 votes

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Am I saying anything to you? A superiority complex would have me comparing myself to all of you, I'm just comparing myself to the guy who accused me of being boosted.

You were the one that mentioned rank. Even though you are technically correct, it doesn't mean you have to be a complete douche.

bleufromage1 votes

Tycaus wasn't even in the original statecraft so I don't know how you can say it's "rooted" in starcraft. Now if your name was Fenix or tassadar or something I'd say your name is rooted from sc

Tychusfindlay9191 votes

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bleufromage1 votes

As far as lore yes but that has nothing to do with the game it's self. Tycaus was not conceived of during the original statecraft or brood war. And I don't appreciate being called a moron. Act like a civil adult.

Tychusfindlay9191 votes

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As far as lore yes but that has nothing to do with the game it's self. Tycaus was not conceived of during the original statecraft or brood war. And I don't appreciate being called a moron. Act like a civil adult.

Hard to take you seriously when you keep misspelling "Tychus"

And I don't care what you appreciate or not. You're free not to discuss matters with me that you're ignorant in.

Pierce The Veal1 votes

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I really got into this game hardly a year ago. I'm speaking here on the forums on my main account, this account. I'm simply naturally good at this game because I transitioned to this game from Starcraft, one of the most, if not the most intensive RTS games in the entire industry. Starcraft introduced me to and strengthened my general macro and micro skillsets. It taught everything from map awareness to scouting and vision prioritization and unit micromanagement (Except in starcraft instead of having one hero you generally have to deal with 100+ unit armies with differing units).

My name is rooted in SC anyways if that wasn't a big hint.

Thank you. And I mostly play solo queue but that's besides the point. This account is relatively new in terms of how much time I've put in it. I climbed from bronze to plat mostly by myself. You're stuck low tier gold with your AS Darius runes.

AD scales with every single ability he has outside of his E which does not deal damage. AS scales with nothing other than getting his passive off slightly faster.

Once again, I use AD, and Dyrus uses AD.

Sites like champion.gg and whatnot review ME as a platinum player when it comes to top Darius builds utilized by the top 8-10% of league players in this region. You're merely but a talker who is ultimately just in low gold.

I understand the jealousy against someone who started season 6 in bronze and climbed easily up to plat before the season even came close to ending, but you're taking it a bit far with your projecting ;)

http://champion.gg/champion/Darius As evidenced here, clearly the way to go is a mix of AD and attack speed, you're just part of a subset of sillier dariuses who think stacking their passive slower is a good exchange for 9 AD.

Good job, you got platinum! You're now actually playing the game! How does it feel like to be the bottom of the barrel among the "top" players? Just for your reference, the difference between a diamond V and you is like the difference between you and a bronze. Furthermore, the same difference exists between diamond III and diamond V, diamond I and diamond III, master and diamond 1, and challenger and master.

You have made the first out of 6 bronze-platinum level skill steps necessary to becoming a top player in this game, I look forward to seeing you surmount the following 5 steps up since you've made it clear that you're capable of doing so :D

Tychusfindlay9191 votes

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http://champion.gg/champion/Darius

Good job, you got platinum! You're now actually playing the game! How does it feel like to be the bottom of the barrel among the "top" players? Just for your reference, the difference between a diamond V and you is like the difference between you and a bronze. Furthermore, the same difference exist between diamond III and diamond V, diamond I and diamond III, master and diamond 1, and challenger and master.

You have made the first out of 5 bronze-platinum level skill steps necessary to becoming a top player in this game, I look forward to seeing you surmount the following 4 steps up since you've made it clear that you're capable of doing so :D

Oh I wasn't aware I made any such statements about saying that it would be easy to get up to challenger or master high diamond. I simply stated that transitioning from Starcraft to League helped me to immediately climb at an incredibly fast rate within one season since a lot of the skills required in League can be found in Starcraft and at a much more intense level in Starcraft.

Keep pulling random shit that I didn't say out of your ass.

Still in the top 8% of league players in this region, up from the top 100% in one season.

Pierce The Veal1 votes

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Oh I wasn't aware I made any such statements about saying that it would be easy to get up to challenger or master high diamond. I simply stated that transitioning from Starcraft to League helped me to immediately climb at an incredibly fast rate within one season since a lot of the skills required in League can be found in Starcraft and at a much more intense level in Starcraft.

Keep pulling random shit that I didn't say out of your ass.

Still in the top 8% of league players in this region, up from the top 100% in one season.

You do realize leaping up a group of noncaring casuals doesn't really constitute an accomplishment?

The only reason I'm stepping in is because someone here has a case of the "I'm platinum so I'm actually the best thing that ever existed." Honestly seems to be a trend with plat players Imve played with/talked to. Yet it seems to die off in diamond based on the friends I had (emphasis on had, many quit the game.)

By far the most down to earth high ranked player I've met was a challenger.

I'm just here to tell you to simmer the fuck down, because climbing from 100% to 8% with all that incoming skill is a lot easier than 8% to 7% or even 7.5%

Only Play Darius3 votes

Darius has the lowest attack speed scaling in the game. They specifically added the reset on his cripple to help him last hit, don't ever build attack speed on him.

Vertu5 votes

I have a master tier friend who mains Darius that told me to take some as runes on him because it helps with stacking.

CaptnJakSparrow3 votes

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I have a master tier friend who mains Darius that told me to take some as runes on him because it helps with stacking.

i like how when you commented everyone miraculously shut up.

Melledoneus1 votes

It's all due to preference.

Personally, when I play Darius, I take AD runes because I rely on instant damage from W and Q. Many top lane matchups have ways to escape your auto attack range, and it's just easier if your abilities deal more damage. Not to mention AD boosts the damage of Darius' passive bleed.

Mandang01 votes

Finally someone with an actual argument behind their preference!

YumaS2Astral1 votes

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Darius has the lowest attack speed scaling in the game. They specifically added the reset on his cripple to help him last hit, don't ever build attack speed on him.

It and his mana regen are his only mediocre base stats. Because Darius has insane base stats overall

Nekusen4 votes

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attack speed is really good on darius. way better that the 7 ad or so you get from ad quints.

i always get item 3115 in my AP Darius

Shacolata5 votes

And then there is this guy

Sun Wukong Sun1 votes

The 35 bonus AD you mean, ijs

Are1 votes

I was like that with MS quints. You go through withdrawal, but you learn to adapt.

Surr20plz1 votes

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I was like that with MS quints. You go through withdrawal, but you learn to adapt.

I had to choose between the 2.

I chose AS!

Prison AnaI2 votes

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I was like that with MS quints. You go through withdrawal, but you learn to adapt.

Dude, as soon as i use movespeed quints i cant stop, i have to keep using them i have to be faster. I must be faster

The Yetii Rider1 votes

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I was like that with MS quints. You go through withdrawal, but you learn to adapt.

What? No way. I'm not going back. MS Quints master race.

Athenes Lulu1 votes

Just remember that attack speed runes are used usually to help someone last hit better, and that helps them switching in between trading and farming modes. Matchup, champion, and playstyle dependent, too.

If you're jungling then it's one of those must-have runes, unless your clears are so fast and/or sustainable that attackspeed runes aren't necessary; which isn't always the case.

Otherwise no fear, though if you feel the need to get other stats besides attack speed, try taking away fewer runes at a time to slowly adapt to the desired speed you need.

A Liberal1 votes

I have the same exact problem with scaling CDR runes. Like... I can't function without them. I fully know I am overbuilding CDR but having all that CDR earlier or even when im behind and can't afford my items... It feels so nice

Combozone1 votes

In Season 5, I was using an outdated guide for an ADC (think it was Tristana), and it told be to get Life Steal Quints. I almost can't take them off without me whining about "no sustain, gg"

JQKAndrei1 votes

Dude I literally can't play Ashe with a normal build anymore , I max Q and rush item 3085 item 3124 item 3153 xD, I'm glad it works or I'd be fucked.

Spoofghoul1 votes

item 1419 item 3153 item 3085 item 3071 item 3124

is where its at now

fuck crit full retard on hit x'D

Spoofghoul1 votes

An option is to to go full ad runes, or a mix of ad and arpen

and start item 1042 + 4xitem 2010

you can then build it into any attackspeed item you need later

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