What exactly is lethality?

Partybringer·Apr 18, 2017·4 votes·119,431 views

cause aside from i never build it

14 Comments

oSEXYPLATYPUSoApr 18, 20172 votes

lethality is a form of armor pen that scales based on the level of the target you are facing.

so if a support is lvl 4 and the mid is lvl 8 you have more armor pen vs the lvl 8 then the lvl 4

PartybringerApr 18, 20173 votes

Ok, so it's lategame armor pen then. How well does it compare to flat out armor pen? Does it ever become better?

oSEXYPLATYPUSoApr 18, 20171 votes

its like 70% of regular armor pen

MrHaZeYoApr 18, 20172 votes

Starts out at 60%

So 10 Leathility is 6 Armor Pen vs a Lvl 1, at 18 it would be the full 10.

DeathBurstApr 19, 20172 votes

The thing is, Flat Armor Pen doesn't exist anymore. There isn't a single thing in the game that directly gives Flat Armor Pen, so Lethality and Armor Pen don't compare.

Pandamonkey86Aug 14, 20181 votes

Lord Dominik's Regard +35% Armor Penetration

DeathBurstAug 14, 20183 votes

FLAT Armor Pen. 35% is Percent, not Flat. Plus, this thread is a year old buddy. ^^'

TheSnackenApr 19, 20172 votes

10 Lethality means this (provided my numbers are correct, I'm not,sure I remember correctly):

Physical damage sources ignore 6 armor of the recipient when damage reduction is being calculated, plus an additional 0.235 armor for each level the target has earned beyond level 1. If the target is level 10, the armor ignored would be 8.117. At level 18, the armor ignored would be 10.

The important things to remember are:

Lethality is only flat armor penetration at a minimum of ~60%. Lethality checks the recipient's level and armor. Lethality is best for squishy targets, the %armor penetration items are meant for fighting tanks.

Mysticman89Apr 18, 20171 votes

All item/rune sources of flat pen became sources of lethality, and lethality is essentially scaling flat pen that scales with the enemies level rather than your own.

There is more lethality on items/runes than their was flat pen on items previously, so while lethality is like reduced effectiveness flat pen until level 18, since theres more of it the 'break even' compared to pre-lethality is much sooner (level 12ish if I recall, may vary with source).

Asayake 5150glowApr 19, 20171 votes

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All item/rune sources of flat pen became sources of lethality, and lethality is essentially scaling flat pen that scales with the enemies level rather than your own.

There is more lethality on items/runes than their was flat pen on items previously, so while lethality is like reduced effectiveness flat pen until level 18, since theres more of it the 'break even' compared to pre-lethality is much sooner (level 12ish if I recall, may vary with source).

It was lvl 12 with the old Lethality %'s (starts at 40%), so I think it'll be sooner now.

Troll for TrumpApr 19, 20171 votes

It was meant to balance assassins and curb their snowball. It was OP at first, then balanced for assassins but abused by ADCs, and now even Assassins won't touch it with a 20ft pole unless it's youmuus.

PhelasApr 19, 20172 votes

Fun thing is, it was weak at first (the formula was like 0.4X + [(0.6X * Y)/18]), then it was buffed (0.6X + [(0.4X * Y)/18], ADCs absued the shit out of it, and then Lethality was nerfed, and so were the ADCs using it. Classic Riot.