Why do people want reverts on Fizz and Talon? Unlike Leblanc those champions don't suffer.

-They are strong enough to deal with the current adcs, they take more skills to use aswell has having a little bit more counterplay. -They are fun to play and do way more damage than before, unlike Leblanc they can sit next to a champion for 2 sec before procing their whole burst and not die. -They are much stronger in lane and can farm easely under tower. -They have way more waveclear and somewhat decent teamfighting cleanup potential. -Higher winrates than their previous version.

So whats the big deal? Because you can't just smash your keyboard anymore with the same rotation over and over? Because you actually have to use your auto attack with Talon? Because you actually have to hit your ult with Fizz?

To me they are the successful one from the Assassin Rework along with Katarina.

The one that actually needs counterplay and reworks is this guy. The one that everyone though was balanced isn't.

-Why does this champion poke harder than Xerath and has the same range as an artillery mage -Why does he has easier time csing with an execute autoattack when ennemies are low on hp aswell as having very low cooldown aoe abilities? -Why does this champion has the best waveclears out of all the assassins? -Why can he towerdive and not take a single turret hit? -Why can this champion play passive and poke you out in lane while all the other assassins have an aggressive playstyle?