Riot, I just saw the Quinn rework..

Bionic Avian·Oct 29, 2015·3 votes·1,765 views

I may not have access to the PBE, but I did see the Quinn rework. I'm confused as to why you removed her identity as a whole? I wish I had the opportunity to try her, but unfortunately it won't happen. But has anyone who's been able to play her have any thoughts?

I'm really worried if she's released the way she is, she'll be completely nulllified as a pick entirely since the damage from her ult was heavily a part of her being able to duel, and not come LVL 6 she has no huge power spike to fall back on in bottom lane since the damage has been reduced, so she seems like she'll be heavily outclassed at that point by enemies that have high-impact ultimates. Especially with her short AA range, that blind was vital to making good exchanges happen.

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EyrgosOct 29, 20153 votes

I'm terribly sad. Quinn has been my favorite champion since her pre-release... my favorite to play ever.

She's so bland now. Removal of Blind is depressing, that was my favorite part of her. Proper timing & mind-gaming with the Blind was core to her gameplay & the fantasy of playing her...

Much more Harrier marking waters down the mechanic, it's so frequent now it feels pointless.

Whereas she had excellent roaming with interesting effect before... now she only has the roaming... and it looks really stupid having Quinn hang onto Valor & makes no sense she can't auto while hanging on with the other arm.

Skystrike weaker? Saddening...

She also lost the play-making capability of surprise attacking with Valor form. That was the absolute best. The plays! The tower dives & the escapes.

If you're not going to up her AA range either, she should have even more base MS so she's viable as an ADC bot lane. Her fantasy should be the best kiter in the game.

Her mindgamey/playmaking gameplay being gutted is just the worst...

Not only that... you guys again screwed with her lane assignment...

And the Blind made her jungle viable so she didn't each too much damage from the Monsters.

Jungle Quinn was one of my absolute favorite ways to play her & it's something I've requested you guys keep intact and/or enhance constantly.

Another thing. Is nothing was done to enhance Valor's interplay... that was the single biggest request among fans upon hearing she'd be received any sort of update.

More frequent Harriering doesn't count.

The loss of Valor's v. of her abilities is a huge hit on Valor interplay too.

Man, this sucks... I'm so depressed about this :/

Please fix this. Quinn is ruined in this state, nearly everything I loved about her spoiled or removed.

She's utterly ruined. Please revert. Or let's go back to the drawing board.

Bionic AvianOct 29, 20151 votes

I really hope they do. Because now it feels like they don't want her to be what they made her TO BE in the first place. It's saddening, really.

OverpoweredSoapOct 29, 20151 votes

No one has had a chance to play her rework just yet because the PBE is currently down.

It seems she's trading an AoE Execute for more mobility and roaming.

From what I've been told and seen, her ult has no cd, so.

Melancholy ExileOct 29, 20151 votes

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come LVL 6 she has no power spike to fall back on in bottom lane, so she seems like she'll be heavily outclassed. Especially with her short AA range, that blind was vital to making good exchanges happen.

Riot want her to be a roaming mid-laner so I don't really think her performance down bot is of the utmost concern to them.

If you don't mind me asking, what do you consider Quinn's current identity to be?

Bionic AvianOct 29, 20151 votes

A duelist marksman is what I've fallen to her as. She has a good chunk of mobility, and she's relied on that blind to do anything safely without getting out-exchanged, so fights often times are just small duels. Otherwise, on a consistent AD basis, she's really hard to go up against a good zone lane like Cait, ashe, etc. + any safe support pick.

Even when sword of the divine was out I preferred bursting someone down quickly because she just can't sustain damage with her short range. :/

ŃordOct 30, 20151 votes

I kind of like parts of the rework. The blind removal sucks but at least harrier comes up on all of her skills. her ult also has a cool down of 6 seconds so you can always roam if you want to catch people by surprise. She could still be the duelist people want her to be. The new items bring a lot more defense than marksmen used to have. While we have to wait and see, I'm feeling optimistic.