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Nashors tooth first on Azir?

devdev463··1 votes·1,645 views

So I've been seeing seriously every single Azir I see building Nashors tooth first as a first item. I assume this is because some pro did it or something, but I don't follow lcs all that much so I dunno. I almost always build this item later on and leave it at a stinger for most of the game. I don't get why you wouldn't just leave it at stinger and build another item. I've tried to rush it first just to see why everyone is doing this and I am just confused lol. My damage is meh and I run oom b4 I can even poke the enemy out of lane (without buying mana pots anyway). Maybe I need to accommodate my playstyle to the fact that with nashors first he does a lot more sustained dmg than poke dmg, but morello has always worked perfectly for me as a first item. I usually like to go morello > stinger > Dcap > and then finish the stinger either 4th or 5th. So am I missing something about Nashors or is it just a mediocre first item?

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MisterHealYoGirl1 votes

For most champs, it's better as a third or fourth item, since the on-hit damage scales with AP, and the base is kinda meh. Azir's soldiers don't apply that, so that doesn't really factor into his considerations, however. The stats on Morello and Nashor's are pretty similar; 80 AP and 20% CDR. Morello is 700 gold cheaper and gives 100% base mana regeneration, but Nashor's gives 40% attack speed, which is probably better for Azir.

Overall, both of these items are viable on Azir, and you probably want both of them. Which one you want first probably depends on who you're up against; if you against someone mobile, and you have to spam your soldiers and Q to harass them and farm, Morello is going to let you do that. If you're up against someone slow and immobile, however, and you can get away with using your Q sparingly, rushing a Nashor's can really boost your damage against them and zone them very hard.

tl;dr Both of them are viable, and you'll probably want both of them eventually. Pick one depending on your mana usage.

Thmetal1 votes

I usually save nashor's till like 4th item, and rush athenes or morello's first depending on the game. But I prefer the spam my abilities and poke which is where the mana regen comes in, if you're looking for the more consistent auto attack based damage that's where nashor's comes in.

UltraSceptile1 votes

CDR isn't really good for azir anymore because his damage comes from his solider autoes now not his spammable Q. Therefore it's better to buy nashors rylais and then pure AP, rather than trying to cap out CDR for more AS.

MisterHealYoGirl1 votes

It gets him to three soldiers a lot faster, though, which obviously increases his DPS. CDR isn't as much of a one-stat-wonder as it was before, but it's still really good on him.

UltraSceptile1 votes

Yeah but three soldiers autoing at the pace of a snail doesn't really do much. Besides nashors gives 20% CDR too.

EXO Sehun1 votes

I usually go for Nashor's Tooth first if I am ahead or I'm farming well. If I magically mess up, I go for another Doran's Ring or start building a Morellonomicon.

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devdev4631 votes

I see many ppl going nashors into rylais, but I can't imagine not having any mana regen on azir early on. I really like having the stinger by the time teamfights roll around and I almost always have enough time by to build it going morellos then stinger. The morello fits his landing pattern much better because you usually only get 1 maybe 2 autos depending on their positioning, making the increased mana regen from the morello more valuable than the increased atk speed because the attack speed won't matter that much until teamfights break out and let you consistently autos the front line, leading to more dps. At least this is my concensus on morello vs nashors. However, most people dont really agree with me because most azirs I see in ranked rush the nashors first. I can't see a situation where nashors is a better first item than morello.

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