@Meddler Can we talk about how bad AP support items are?

So, As someone who mostly plays mid/support, I was outraged to see none of the new support items gives AP. Then I remembered what happened with frost queen claim when it got changed and how I was pretty much the only mid laner not buying it in every game I played. So basicaly: support items with AP have to be kept bad so no one else but supports want to buy them. Thats why we overload those said items with mana regen and CDR and shit a small amount of armor/mr on most of them to ''compensate'' for the lack of AP. Give the said item an active and there you go! You have your typical AP support item!

Let's say I'm playing I would probably be expected to build something like or replace one of these items by something else that gives like 50 AP. That build doesn't look so bad in itself but only gives about 100-150AP. But supports don't need AP right? WELL SURPRISE THEY DO!

Nami's W is supposed to have a negative amplifier early game so it is not oppressive, and get positive late game through AP utility scaling. But oh what a surprise our dear nami won't have enough AP to scale positively into the late game. And what do we give her to compensate? Actives, mana regen and cdr. Her spells's utility will be shit but she will be able to spam them.

Wanna know what I do on Nami? I build . That looks like a troll build right? Well guess what. I am more usefull this way.

No, I don't have an AOE shield for all of my team, an instant cleanse for any ally or a crit boost to my ADC. But wanna know what I have? I can heal for more than 370 HP AMPLIFIED by about 10% for every bounce. My passive gives a movement speed boost of about 140, double for my ult. My E gives more than 150 damage on hit to the ally I target and about 55% slow on hit. And if I decide to change one of those items for one that gives even more AP, All those numbers are amplified too.

Of course, I could buy + redemption and get a 45% increased healings. But that won't affect anything else but my heal, and I will heal for about what I heal when I go full AP+ anyway.

Basicaly, when you are a support, you are given a choice: Either you build off-path to make your abilities have an actual important impact when you use them, or you build the usual mana regen, CDR and defensive stats path so that you can spam your abilities non stop to compensate for your lack of scaling and have some actives to also compensate for that lack of scaling. And I don't know if I am the only one but it feels so wrong to me to build Hp/resistance items on a squishy ranged champion like Nami, Janna, Lulu or Soraka. And even if I wanted to not build tanky on those champions using only supports item, well it is just impossible. Look at the AP items for supports

and the soon to be trashed for a great total of 260 AP. 200AP in next patch. Not to mention those 5 items (4 soon) are the ONLY options for AP in support itemization BUT HEY I will have 200% mana regen and 60% CDR how fun!!!! I can't even think of one support item that doesn't have CDR on it.

So with 4 options for AP items on support in preseason, can we take a look at them please? At least having enough to make a build. Removing CDR and mana regen in exchange for AP would be nice. Let's say had no mana regen, no CDR, but gave you 100 AP+ both its passives. That would be a nice start and I doubt Lux mid would build this and sacrifice damage in order to make her W stronger. and if she does, it won't be much of a problem. She will sacrifice damage for utility. Of course this is just an example of something we could do for enchanters, a new item would be more than appreciated and a lot of support items could use some work. Just keeping the AP on banner of command would be a nice start.

Oh and those two babes right here could use a total rework if you ask me. I haven't seen Athen in ages and nor me or my adc wants to do absolutely nothing but walk until a fight breaks out to not waste Zeke's passive.