She is really strong in the hands of someone who knows how to play her she only has a 40% winrate because of all the players this patch trying her out. If she gets buffed for lower elos she will be perma banned and I dont want that happening.
Edit 1: you can shunpo to where a dagger would fall before it actually lands.
Penns7 votesThe only change Id like to see is letting her ignore unit collision near her daggers. So annoying if you try to pick one up in lane without E but minions just dont let you do it lol.
MagikarpIsBoss2 votesYea I've been playing her recently and minion block when going for her daggers is so annoying. They should only make it within 300 units or less of a dagger.
Succubús GF3 votesNobody wants to nerf kata, stop
PROJECT Katarìna25 votesIm really afraid that shes gonna get buffed for no reason then hard nerfed
DJ Katarina5 votesIm really afraid that shes gonna get buffed for no reason then hard nerfed
Same.
Jorencice2 votesI know an assassian main whos high master tier.
He says katarina is terrible.
Her damage needs to be buffed hardcore.
And this man is a mechanics genius.
So it cant be him just not knowing how to play her.
Course he is playing against other master tier and challenger level players.
Nameless Voice12 votesJust because he's master tier doesn't mean he can instantly learn how to play a now-complex champion.
Even master-tier players need some time to learn new champions.
Battlecast Sona2 votesand that's why I don't think I've seen a single game Voyboy has played as Kat where he hasn't popped off and gone crazy. He regularly wins games pre-20 with her...
Her early game damage and laning went ++++++++, but her burst got nerfed. It was the point. Buffing her damage would literally be flying in the face of the point of the rework - make her laning less painful, but make her work harder to shred people late.
notice me Sin pi1 votesthe league we know today would no longer be the same game if it balanced champions around the highest level of play like dota
TotalJerk1 votesI genuinely think she's weak, but the suggestion that a lack of damage is her problem is bullshit. IMO once people realize they need to stay away from her daggers she will start to struggle.
bad arcade kitty2 votesso many deaths...
TheOnlyJoe5 votesbecause she's really risky lol
rtbf761092711 votesall melee dps champions will have higher deaths than others. They jump in and do as much damage as they can before they die. Talon, katarina, akali, rengar, and yasuo all have the highest average deaths per game in league. Annie and fiddle are next since they flash engage, dump spells and probably die right after. Doesn't mean the players are doing something wrong
in fact with 5 or 6 average deaths on katarina in a game, I would suspect the player is not in enough of the team fights and could easily be doing worse overall than a kat with 8 or 9
invisiblecat12 votesAlso a Kata main: 31/12/20(Ascension) 34/18/14(ascension) 6/7/4 (This was just a bad game) 22/3/3(normal) 10/1/2(normal) 20/4/2(normal) I think there are 2 more games, one of them I went like 20/2 and the other.... kata support does not work But honestly her spin damage should be toned down, and her Q damage should go up
Zerenza1 votesNo
Pale Pirate2 votesBest build order?
PROJECT Katarìna1 votesGenereal build for most match ups 
finish it off with a 
for squishies or 
for really high health tanks
Big Lincoln1 votesin that order?
PROJECT Katarìna1 votesIf i can get 
Ill get it on first back if not then I usually get rylais or ludens dependng on match ups is good against people with a lot of dashes cause youll need to chase them down is really good against immobile champs, overall get ryalis first till it gets nerfed and yes usually this order, there is situational scenarios where you get defensive items b4 damage like 
or 
GetMariahCarried2 votesBut how else will I gain the excuse to use the term "Buffarina"?
morris11 votesI saw the build of that one Rengar game and for a second I thought you played Kata there as well.
Keevur1 votesThus far I've never lost or won a game when Kat was on either team. Just because you can shunpo ult the adc doesn't mean you have to.
Nameless Voice1 votesLuckily, Riot have so far said that they are leaving her alone until the dust settles and people learn how to play her. Let's hope they keep that stance for now.
MagikarpIsBoss1 votesHonestly hybrid katarina is super strong. I've been starting either boots or seal and first back getting 2 long swords. Then I go into revolver and finish gb. I've also been messing around with ad runes. After trying this, a few days later VoyBoy made a video using a similar build and it seems to work for him as well. I can't tell if this is just new Katarina being good when understanding how to play her, or if people dont understand her yet so they dont know what to do in lane verse her.
Battlecast Sona1 votesHer passive has a 1:1 bonus AD ratio, and since Shunpo can reset (and gives you an auto on your target) the early AD build allows your trades to be really strong (since she's better at staying in melee range now). I think the longsword start is going to become the norm, into double longsword hextech->gunblade.
EndlessIsolation1 votesI still feel like too much of her power is gated behind her ult... I mean I guess its okay if that is how Riot wants it, but I just don't like it. Same reason I dislike new taric (too much put into his ult that hinders his possibilities in other places).
I suppose it is what it is though. And a good Kat is still scary as hell (maybe more so because of the way her W/E work). I do fear if they buff her even a bit for "high play" she is going to dumpster low elo.
Battlecast Sona2 votesbut her power is now LESS gated behind her ultimate because with Shunpo resets it has become a viable source of damage (and they added an AD ratio to it). Prior to this rework Katarina was basically entirely dependent on her ult because if she didn't secure a kill she couldn't chase you - now she can chase you down without having to kill someone first, so she's actually less dependant on her ult than pre-rework.
EndlessIsolation1 votes[{quoted}](name=Battlecast Janna,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0e7duFrY,comment-id=00090000,timestamp=2016-11-20T21:22:12.325+0000)
but her power is now LESS gated behind her ultimate because with Shunpo resets it has become a viable source of damage (and they added an AD ratio to it). Prior to this rework Katarina was basically entirely dependent on her ult because if she didn't secure a kill she couldn't chase you - now she can chase you down without having to kill someone first, so she's actually less dependant on her ult than pre-rework.
That is true, but still doesn't change the fact that the majority of her damage is in her ult. Though I definitely agree she is less reliant on it. Still kind of disappointing they didn't do more (but I guess they didn't want to ruin her identity?).
PROJECT Katarìna1 votesAll her damage is not front loaded into ult actually its just better overall has more range and a indicator also more damage overall her daggers do so much damage when you pick them up and her q has a really low cooldown in a good teamfight you gonna shunpo at least 5-8 times
PROJECT Katarìna1 votesThis guy knows what he's saying http://galeri2.uludagsozluk.com/364/give-that-man-a-cookie_488687.jpg
Leetri1 votesI'd say another reason why it's so low is because she requires much more skill now with her dagger placements and people aren't used to it, i.e. they're playing her the same way they used to and that doesn't work all that well. A slight buff or QoL change might be appropriate, but it's far too early to tell for sure.
lolouie1 votesHer early game definitely needs a nerf. Should probably nerf the ad ratio on her E.
I want to say her damage on her passive is a bit too strong late game, but based off all the games I play..
If they DO nerf the damage on her passive, I think they should buff her Q a bit later on in the game
I'm a D5 mid lane main and love assassins. Also, I was playing Kat on my G4 smurf if that makes any difference.
Rockm Sockm1 votesI miss actually being able to waveclear and not an instant liability the second I pick Kat.
Eunson1 votesCould do that as Ivern support in Gold V
PROJECT Katarìna1 votesIvern is strong though people just dont know how to play him lol
Who Feeded You1 votesShe's good against people who have no idea how to counter her.
IMO her passive should trigger faster, so she'd feel more like an assassin not a fighter. Right now you have to Q, wait for dagger to fall and then go in... Which is quite silly if you're tight on time.
PROJECT Katarìna1 votesYou can actually shunpo to a place where the daggers falls before it falls very interesting fact a lot of people dont know Ill add it to the main post
