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@Riot, please someone tell me what good the Fizz rework did

Penns·11/10/2017, 3:11:55 PM·10 votes·1,010 views

Is he more healthy/less "frustrating" to play against? No, he is such a cheesy and binary pick now that he has to be able to "instantly" oneshot a squishy with 60 AP at level 6 to function.

Did it stop tank Fizz? No, Fizz top was very bad before the rework already because the %hp damage got nerfed. Then after the rework (where Riot stated that stopping Fizz from building tanky was a main goal) and follow up buffs he became literally the strongest top laner in the game in both soloq and competitive play while not being very strong mid.

**Is he more fun to play? **Subjective, but 63% (over 205 out of 330 people) of the Fizz mains on his subreddit prefer old Fizz, this is 1 year after the rework that obviously made many Fizz players leave him + his subreddit. Same goes for basically every Fizz player I met ingame.

**Is he even still an assassin? **Barely, pretty much the best thing he has going for him at higher levels of play is the fact that his ult will first slow you by 80% for 2 seconds, then knock you up for 1 second and then slow you by 80% again for 1.5 seconds. Im pretty sure this isnt what anyone wanted the "Tidal Trickster" to do.

So... what is left exactly? Someone enlighten me pls. Not to mention that Riot said Fizz doesnt really need a rework anyway and scaled it down to a ""mini-update"", but still completely changed his playstyle.

11 Comments

Ceol11/10/2017, 4:15:20 PM3 votes

If you don't use duskblade, welcome to assassin mediocrity.

Riot butchered the majority of assassin kits (namely AP assassins for some reason...) with delays and then put a gross amount of damage for it to "work". Now here we are, a year later, with nerfs to "toxic" ratios and damage down, left doing the same amount of damage we did before but 2 seconds slower amidst a plethora of shield/peel options. (AP) assassins are more feast or famine than ever.

Fizz needs his W delay removed and his ult reverted. His E and Ult already give enough reaction time with their delays. What's the poor fish to do against coordinated teams? Splitpush? Boy, I enjoy assassinating turrets.

:(

hehe

Although electrocute is busted right now. Not sure how so many of the runes came out so heavily loaded with damage.

BALDG1VEN BOOMER11/10/2017, 3:56:33 PM2 votes

He got a sick hit box on his fish when he was reworked

Jinzo Torrance11/10/2017, 4:22:26 PM1 votes

Fizz still has invulnerability frames so if he gets ahead he starts having no counterplay.

I have no idea what the rework was supposed to do.

Salson11/10/2017, 5:09:45 PM1 votes

Fizz needed counterplay.

He's not a healthy champion like Malzahar, otherwise he'd get buffed/reverted to 55% winrate the moment he gets to 50%.