Can being caught by Leona/Thresh/Pyke NOT be an instakill?
Shields/heals literally don't do anything. You get caught, ignited and you're dead. This shouldn't be happening.
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Eating a hook from a full CC support like 
has always been a death sentence unless you have Flash up.
Now it's a death sentence even if you do 
, because 
.
Nerf. Fucking. Ignite.
if you get caught by pyke you should die , he is an assassin
he scales with lethality and his ult is an execute that ignores shields and he always runs ignite
Getting caught by Leona has been meaning getting killed for as long as I play her(S2).
so you'd rather die by 
?
Pyke outclasses EVERY melee support in the game by a overbearing degree. Mechanically the melee support champs are so old and binary, they just straight up cannot compete with how new-age and overloaded Pyke is. Alistar is the best choice aside from Pyke, but hes still absolute garbage in comparison, and the Pyke lane will still win, relatively effortlessly.
You can survive getting caught by Leona or Thresh. Altho idek how anyone gets hit by Zenith blade unless they just brain fart. Pyke, no, youre dead.
Leona doesn't even do damage anymore. Literally the worst support in the game. Only has a 50% wr and decent playrate because shes the easiest support to play, and has the most binary and simple kit. A chimpanzee could play Leona at 100% efficiency.
Pyke has a wind up and it's blocked by minions. If you get with it you probably deserve to die.
Thresh's hook can be removed 
. So can all of Leona's cc.
So shielders have an item that gives their adc cleanse, rush that, no problem
Its just ignite. The champions aren't any worse than before.
Here's the run down, while they do have strong 2nd level 3rd level combos, their level 1 is where they are weakest. It's essential that you and the support take the time to poke those types of supports down so that they will not have enough HP for the fights they choose to engage on VIA Zenith Blade, Pyke Q, Death Sentence. In these particular matchups, it's the ADC's job to position properly and the Supports job to either interrupt any CC chain via Morgana E, Janna Q, etc. or be able to equally lock down hard the enemy adc through damage or similar CC chain. Adcs I would choose in this matchup would be Caitlyn (Poke), Xayah(Feathers are in bounds to deal a lot more damage when they come to you), Sivir(Spell shield), MF (Poke), or Vayne (If you really just want mobility). Supports I would choose in this matchup would be Morgana (E), Brand/Zyra (Damage Lockdown), Alistar/Thresh/Leona/Pyke (CC Chain lockdown), or Nami/Lulu/Bard/Vel/Janna (Utility-ish type of poke + CC)
whats the point of playing those champs then? and ofc later on you can survive even in arly you can just outplay them
We have had this with Blitz like from S1
As a Pyke player here is my insight, CC the crap out of him and peel, Alistar is a great choice. Once Pyke uses his Bone Skewer and Phantom Undertows in he has committed and cant get out easy, lock him down and he cant start terrorizing with Death From Below and dont let him back out to let Gift of the Drowned Ones restore him. The other thing is he is really dangerous with his team, but alone not so much unless you are also alone and he has snowballed hard
I play Leona a lot. Unless your ADC is mad fed, you have to be pretty judicious about when you go in if you don't want the whole thing to result in nothing but you taking a lot of damage for no reason. Especially early on the wave situation has to be favorable, and your ADC will have to be in position to respond quickly. It's a lot easier when the enemy is pushed up, so be careful about that and try to freeze lane as much as possible.