Akali has no counterplay.

Ashryver Queen ·Aug 25, 2018·14 votes·3,877 views

There's nothing else to say - she's literally pure, concentrated cancer. As if the domination mobility already has in this game and her 54 dashes don't make it next to impossible to pin her down, she has a fucking True Stealth, making her next to invincible in her shroud. She has executes, she has an inbuilt heal, she has dashes and some of them even function without a target. She breaks every goddamned mechanic in the game and she IS in every goddamned game. It's unreal.

23 Comments

InfernapeAug 25, 20183 votes

In the words of Piccolo... "DOOOOOOOOOOOOOODGE!"

Beatrice fallsAug 25, 20182 votes

She also has 3 skillshots with relatively high cooldowns ? Counterplay = dodge -_-

Ashryver Queen Aug 25, 20185 votes

She can walk inside your fountain, murder you and then leave. >dodge that

TerozuAug 25, 20181 votes

No. She can't.

Beatrice fallsAug 25, 20183 votes

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She can walk inside your fountain, murder you and then leave. >dodge that

Or you can just wait for her to use her shroud, walk away and fight her this way ? But nah let's run like a headless chicken inside her shroud and call her broken

MOLTinaTORAug 25, 20182 votes

She can walk inside your fountain, murder you and then leave. >dodge that

Nope

IllabetheAug 25, 20183 votes

Tbh in a solo lane this actually isn't True. About 2 days after she came out, I had a Plat or Diamond smurf vs me in a game where I was playing Karma . Both mid lane.

I dodged her until level 6 pretty well, healing up etc. At level 6 she tried to E me, failed, so instead.... she flashed in at me, under turret, Smoked, and used R > Q, and then used an E (back up) on her own Cloud to get out from the turret. That was enough to kill about 80% HP, and there was no time to actually react to it.

Bottom line: If she has 90-100% Energy..... she's going to 100% kill anyone whose not a tank. If she's about 60% or less Energy, it's possible to kill her, but you're going to take a chunk of your HP in damage before it's over.

You really need a team to kill the new Akali. She pretty much dominates 1v1.

Beatrice fallsAug 25, 20182 votes

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Tbh in a solo lane this actually isn't True. About 2 days after she came out, I had a Plat or Diamond smurf vs me in a game where I was playing . Both mid lane.

I dodged her until level 6 pretty well, healing up etc. At level 6 she tried to E me, failed, so instead.... she flashed in at me, under turret, Smoked, and used R > Q, and then used an E (back up) on her own Cloud to get out from the turret. That was enough to kill about 80% HP, and there was no time to actually react to it.

Bottom line: If she has 90-100% Energy..... she's going to 100% kill anyone whose not a tank. If she's about 60% or less Energy, it's possible to kill her, but you're going to take a chunk of your HP in damage before it's over.

You really need a team to kill the new Akali. She pretty much dominates 1v1.

"She pretty much dominates 1v1" "She's going to 100% kill anyone who's not a tank" Duh she's an assassin

IllabetheAug 25, 20183 votes

I can kill any other assassin 1v1. I mean in absolute terms. While other assassins slipping up can get you out alive.... like getting out of a Zed ult before he does enough damage to kill you... or Zhonya...... Akali can literally 2 skill you and there isn't a thing you can do about it (even Zhonya, because her Q has such a low cooldown, and her second R can make up for missing the first one)

About the only other assassin who can do this is Talon, and he does so at the risk of being out of place, having less away from wall mobility, and dying easily.

I brought up Karma specifically, because her kit counters Akali's (even in this form). If you can tether her with W, you know where she is in cloud. Her self heal on W also counters big chunk damage. And her shield. I'm a 4.8 million mastery Karma player. I couldn't stop her from killing me, because that's how much control she has over a lane.

I've played the new Akali, and although I haven't got good with her yet, I get the gist of why you might want to defend her. As an Akali player, you really have to learn to be patient and economize your energy levels, since Q takes half your energy bar and her only way to gain extra energy is her E (which is basically an energy REFUND, since E costs 30 Energy and crossing the boundary and coming back only refunds 30; You can also get energy by using her R or move speed items, but that requires significant mastery of her to exploit)

From an Akali player perspective, I'd probably agree that she's fairly balanced (albeit her whole kit can 100-0 2 people before she runs out of energy if played right). But from an opposing player..... no.... she's broken as hell once people master her. She's more toxic than Yasuo. It took them 2-3 days to turn her into a 3 KDA monster. By 200 games, these Akali players are going to be pushing 10-12 KDA's regularly with her current kit.

MOLTinaTORAug 25, 20183 votes

She pretty much dominates 1v1. she's going to 100% kill anyone whose not a tank.

Yeah because she's an Assassin. But unlike most assassins, she needs to land her shit to do so.

TheMonkeyKiingSep 24, 20181 votes

Zed

Edward30May 2, 20191 votes

Ahri charm Evelynn empowered charm hit Katarina only other champ I can think of with a similar amount of dashes, but that needs to know exactly where the daggers are going to land and when to use them to engage and escape where failing one dash means you die. Akali whats this? invisibility on w that regens mana, 2 possible dashes on e, an ability that heals and slows, and 2 more dashes with an execute attached

ned the kledAug 25, 20186 votes

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when will people realize "just CC him" is a bogus argument.

getting CC'd to death is incredibly unfun and not a type of "counterplay" you should look to reinforce or support. This is LEAGUE not Dota2. We actually try to have fun here and frankly LITERALLY BEING UNABLE TO PLAY THE GAME UNTIL YOU DIE. is the epitome of unfun. nobody pretends like this guy is a paragon of good game design so why pretend like what he DOES is good for the game?

Im so sick and tired of seeing these 4Head level arguments.

"just CC him" AKA: Just unplug his controller bro. He cant beat you if he cant even play the game lul. Get outplayed!

**"just dont let him get farm" **AKA: Spend the entire game focusing all your attention on him so neither of you get to play league properly. ya know cuz thats totally super fun for BOTH parties. Him getting camped and you being unable to do anything else helpful on the map. lets ignore that by sheer game design you are only delaying the inevitable anyway

**"just end the game before late game" **AKA: having champions with a 90% chance to autowin after X items is fantastic design and definitely not some shitty Dota2 game design philosophy that shoulda been dropped years ago

"just ban him" AKA: Literally dont even let him get picked because the champ is bullshit

"Just pick Y champion " AKA: Dont play what YOU want to play and have fun. Your next 20-40 minutes will be dictated by what your opponent picks. Love it when champions get to hold fun hostage like this enforcing rigid pool of reactionary picks. Its like im really playing in the LCS!

"just kite him" AKA: Melee champs? wtf are those?

these are the absolute WORST kinds of counterplays or arguments you can try to make and people need to stop regurgitating these kind of excuses in an attempt to validate their favorite bad champ designs. the only other thing that pisses me off more is when people point to winrates or pickrates as if those are the grand arbiter of balance and fun. People incapable of understanding that sometimes designs can be low winrate but still annoying and unfun as fuck all.

"Oh you think Teemom is annoying to play against? well LOOK he has a 50% winrate so that means he aint OP bro"- person with room temp IQ

dodging is no different from these

Beatrice fallsAug 25, 20182 votes

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dodging is no different from these

It is. What do you expect if she hits her abilities ? To shield you ? To heal you ? I had someone complain about "Brand stun being OP" when it's the easiest shit to dodge

MOLTinaTORAug 25, 20181 votes

dodging is no different from these

It actually is.

AlexTheLieDec 13, 20181 votes

wow, I logged in just to upvote this. never has a bigger truth been said about League's design...

AnAggravatedPimpAug 25, 20181 votes

One dash requires she hit a skill shot the other has a delay between its 1st and second casts while no longer passively gaining charges and resetting on kill. Compared to Riven who just has 4 dashes or kalista who can dash forever as long as she has a target.

MOLTinaTORAug 25, 20181 votes

I love it when people get ass fucked by a champ in a game and a few moments later they proceed to make a post complaining about how OP the champ is. I've seen this waaaaay too many times.

mattiedamacdaddySep 24, 20183 votes

I love it when 43% w/r bronzes try to give commentary like they have any game knowledge. Chances are you’ve never even played against a decent alkali.

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Moltinator

Lord MalpercioSep 24, 20181 votes

Personal foul! Don't do that sort of thing man.

brickyorchid10Dec 15, 20181 votes

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I love it when people get ass fucked by a champ in a game and a few moments later they proceed to make a post complaining about how OP the champ is. I've seen this waaaaay too many times.

Yhea cuz she is busted and incouterplayable