AP needs to be toned down a lot

Bultz··5 votes·1,375 views

How much mr do I need before I am not 1 shot by every mage? 300? 400? 600? like this is getting stupid. On top of to much damage you have to many none mages taking advantage of these build. Ap assassin, who are mobile, have a amazing kits, and escapes dont need to be doing Malzahar, who is imobile so needs the levels, damage. It's just stupid at this point.

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Daddy Ants4 votes

Void Staff is too cheap considering how difficult it is to "stack" MR.

Divin1ty3 votes

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Void Staff is too cheap considering how difficult it is to "stack" MR.

""Stacking"" MR as a Tank is basically impossible. And anyway, not everyone has to be a Mage.

In LCS Top and Mid are usually either broken Champs for example Irelia, or both Mages. So you can't even only ""stack"" MR, but also need high Armor for the ADC and AD Mid.

Cancer. Who wants to even play Tanks anymore?

Hot LeBlanc Yuri4 votes

Zed Yasuo MasterYi Kayn Draven Jax Pyke Tryndamere Riven Renekton Rengar Kled Hecarim Khazix Mages bad! Ap too much damage! QQ WAAAAH, good bait.

Divin1ty1 votes

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Zed Yasuo MasterYi Kayn Draven Jax Pyke Tryndamere Riven Renekton Rengar Kled Hecarim Khazix Mages bad! Ap too much damage! QQ WAAAAH, good bait.

Imagine unironicly complaining about Yi and Kayn, while also defending Mages for..whatever reason.

Hot LeBlanc Yuri4 votes

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Imagine unironicly complaining about Yi and Kayn, while also defending Mages for..whatever reason.

Ah yes you're bright, yi and kayn are the only champs I listed. Imagine picking out 2 champs out of a list of 14. And yeah im defending mages, because most of them get trashed on in lane by resourceless AD champs who also have better wave-clear than them and scale better.

The thigh guy3 votes

Ad is just as bad if not worse.

Titanium701 votes

AP-Assassins (especially Fizz and LB) simply have the DMG in their Kits to one-shot anything that's not a full-tank. As sad as it is.. that's reality. The AP they get from Items is barely relevant. turn it down and absolutely nothing changes.

Meanwhile on stuff like Malz, traditional Mages, A single MR item usually is enough to duel them at any point in the game as long as they're not up a full item and 2 levels ahead of you.

Rewt1 votes

ehhh. i dont really feel that way. when I play Rhaast. I get a SV and thats about enough MR to keep me from melting. sure the syndra will drop 3/4 my hp with her ult, but that is because she is blowing her Ult on me.

Also just gonna say this. around 200 of a resist it stops being useful to get it. 200 of a resist is roughly 70% damage reduction. Then ofc magic pen comes in with its flat and % values. so if they are rolling a item 3165 item 3135 item 3020 and you have 200 MR you will effectively have 200x.6 = 120 - 33 = 87.

so as you can see its not that Magic Damage is too high. its that Void Staff is too impactful. Armor is easier to build and the % pen item for it is only 35% to Void Staff's 40% (iirc it used to be 35 i dont know why they changed it) So while MR is yes much harder to build with only 3 items being truely relevant item 3194 item 3065 item 3001 (which honestly I think are fine, because on top of being 55MR each, they all have amazing passives)

Also btw didnt realize this. Void Staff and Guinsoos dont work together for Pen. they both have the same Unique Passive and so the MPen bit of Guinsoos will actually be turned off if you have Void staff because league takes the higher value.

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