We removed Talon's silence because silence on an assassin is op

Genocide Victim·Oct 4, 2016·4 votes·1,092 views

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Rustling BushOct 4, 201611 votes

list of things cho isn't

assassin
mobile
bursty

it was removed from talon because you couldn't retaliate against him as a mage, same for kassadin and leblanc who are also fairly mobile and bursty.

TargonOct 4, 20168 votes

Pretty much this except AP Cho'gath is very bursty with his high base damages and AP ratios.

Rustling BushOct 4, 20162 votes

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Pretty much this except AP Cho'gath is very bursty with his high base damages and AP ratios.

might as well go full ad Darius and Illaoi i mean their bases is high so its completely fine! not like they aren't going to get their ass blasted before they can even reach them, maybe bursty but its not the best idea when you lose stacks on death.

TargonOct 4, 20162 votes

At 400 AP and level 18, Cho'gath could probably kill a squishy with his Q>W>R combo which would deal 1260 magic damage + 930 true damage, and if I recall, AP Cho'gath usually builds items that make him less squishy like item 3027 item 3116 item 3001 , etc... AP Cho'gath in the midlane used to be a thing and I have yet to see full AD Darius or AD Illaoi have the same effect xD.

RalanrOct 4, 20163 votes

Because full AD Darius and Illaoi have to deal with other bruisers/melee champions.

Plus they don't get free health from feast stacks (though cho loses them when he dies and becomes an easier target with the more he has).

CabruhOct 4, 20161 votes

#Uberdanger XD

WoonStruckOct 4, 20161 votes

Any decent Cho goes item 3027 item 3089 -> Tank.

Still lets him 1-shot squishies, still lets him be absurdly tanky.

In fact, that's the only way pro players ever really build him.

Big LincolnOct 4, 20161 votes

neither of these champions get hundreds of free hp with ult

or have ranged CC spells that also nuke

what's the comparison?

WarlockLawOct 4, 20161 votes

Except those champions have no where near the raw health that 6 Feast Stacks Cho'Gath has. Combine that with items like Rylai's, Liandry's, or Protobelt and his raw health gets enormous. You can easily have over 5K health while only building items with AP in them. With that build you can be tanky enough to front line, and threatening enough to kill any carry stupid enough to get hit by your Q.

Akali is SO HOTOct 4, 20163 votes

and then you realize his max rank Q has 305 base damage plus 100% AP Ratio and his ult deals 300 true damage at rank 1 going all the way up to 650 at rank 3 with a 70% AP Ratio. lmao Xd

PennsOct 4, 20161 votes

https://i.gyazo.com/e8a7488725a1512b7088fde44bcdc102.png Remove the bursty and I agree lol

VolcanuzOct 4, 20161 votes

Since when it cho not bursty?? His whole combo is a burst combo. He has no sustain damage, he is all about chunking the enemy.

KivolanOct 4, 20163 votes

Oh my god is someone complaining about Chogath being OP?

I've seen it all, time to uninstall

TheLastShadow45Oct 4, 20161 votes

Assassins are high mobile champions with a lot of burst.

Cho doesn't fit with this sentence at all. So therefore your argument is invalid.

SukishooOct 4, 20161 votes

Chogath doesn't = Assassin, thus this whole thread is a joke. It's just like Blitzcrank , Fiddlesticks or Garen 's silence.

Koala FrenzyOct 4, 20161 votes

Cho has to be in melee range to eat you. The only way that he'll be in melee range is if you're a bruiser fighting him in top lane in which case you're tanky enough for him to have to whittle you down before he can eat you or if he catches you with a rupture. If he catches you with a rupture as a ranged squishy champion who can just walk out of it that means your positioning was shit and you're already being CCed by the jungle.

Theres about 50 champions with mechanics more worth complaining about than cho's low range immobile silence.

AptestOct 4, 20161 votes

100

warpenguin555Oct 4, 20161 votes

talon had a targeted silence, cho does not

Akali is SO HOTOct 4, 20162 votes

It's kinda impossible to miss his silence with the broken hitbox

warpenguin555Oct 4, 20161 votes

They had changed it to aquire targets post cast on the PBE last patched then reverted it for no reason.

but I do agree the hit box is broken

Ashen RiderOct 4, 20161 votes

The post cast target acquirement got re-added this PBE cycle.

warpenguin555Oct 4, 20161 votes

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The post cast target acquirement got re-added this PBE cycle.

oh thank god. i must have missed that