Gragas Reksai in every game

Genocide Victim·Aug 28, 2016·95 votes·4,258 views

I almost miss Lee Sin

91 Comments

EedatAug 28, 201641 votes

Dont forget Elise when one of them gets banned

WolfChasesAug 29, 20163 votes

That indicates how poor is jungle champion pool. Elise is nothing but a stun bot late game yet there's no reason to pick anything over her if Rek'Sai, Gragas or Nidalee are banned. Personally I never had a single problem with Elise, barely anyone plays her lol and when they do they mostly suck balls.

exiledFromBadmenAug 29, 20161 votes

I used to play her. Then, Rito made her a stun bot and I realized that I suck at her after Season 5. So, I am picking_ even_ Sejuani and Shyvana over her.

WolfChasesAug 29, 20163 votes

Ye she was literally an assassin before they nerfed her. All you had to do is to hit your E and kill someone in a second lol now, you can't duel ADC even if you are equally fed. You cab chunk him to 40-30% hp and than you are a sitting duck, ADC can simply lifesteal on you like there's no tomorrow D:

Once a fearsome Spider Queen now just nothing but the off lane support.

Bouncemaster ZacAug 29, 201631 votes

Rek'sai isn't even that good right now outside competitive. She's basically a glorified ward with a knockup.

Imperial JapanAug 29, 20162 votes

I think that's what OP means. That in the lcs all they play are those two and it's boring the OP

EvewynnAug 28, 201624 votes

I will never miss Lee Sin.

In other news, people below challenger mourning over inevitable Rek nerfs.

MokkunAug 28, 201612 votes

Solo Q, jungle diversity is pretty good. All kinds of stuff works there. Pro scene... it's a little stale, but that's been true of the pro scene for a long time. When games balance on a razorblade, and your livelihood is based on winning, you pick the things you think are best. Even if they are best by only a percent or two.

Luckily, the rest of aren't doing this for a living, and you can watch pro-play for the skill, regardless of champion choice.
(Why is it only Esports where people care about diversity? In the far far far more cared about and watched world of athletic sports, the sports have had little to no change for decades at a time, and no one cares.)

DemiMaxAug 29, 201615 votes

Thing is, i believe, in season 5, prior to Juggernaut update we saw the biggest diversity of Champion picks in pro play ever, only a few champions were left out. Back then it was so much fun to watch the pro scene. (if it wasnt season 5 it was 4, cant remember correctly.)

SpecterVonBarenAug 29, 20165 votes

Here here. Urgot, old Poppy, Yorick and Shaco all got played by the pros in Season 5 and we even had innovative stuff like TF jungle.

CeexSettAug 29, 20163 votes

Poppy Urgot and Shaco were all cheese picks. Poppy was a suprise pick from Viziscaci. Yorick was used to make a hyper late game Cassiopeia carry team and Shaco... idk. The problem is that these pics only work once for the surprise effect.

Urgot started getting picked because he countered the meta that time of AD assassins mid. TF was just broken with Sated. He wasn't picked for diversity, he was picked because he was strong.

Darf RakkiAug 29, 201614 votes

Someone needs to nerf quarterbacks. So tired of seeing them in every game of football ever since the dawn of football.

Only Play DariusAug 28, 20167 votes

Also Shen literally every game yet they wonder why he's getting nerfs hopefully they'll gut Gnar as well

RainbowIceeAug 28, 201617 votes

wtf do you want them to nerf shen for ? is good that he's being played now. We needed an actual tank in the game not just darius/gp top all day every day. With shen top we might get more variation in the game to deal with him.

Whut Thuh Aug 29, 20163 votes

gnars fine right now since hes the only counter to stupid crap like yas

BIH DiamondAug 29, 20161 votes

Lmao im not surprised you're bronze

Yas counters Gnar

3ofGot40veAug 30, 20162 votes

Maybe in minie... Landing chain cc on yasuo as gnar can shut him down fairly easily.

BIH DiamondSep 3, 20161 votes

Yeah, no

Yasuo has the ability to dodge every single one of gnars moves and keep up with him if he jumps away. Also windwalling gnar's q = 22 second cd on it in lane

Whut Thuh Sep 4, 20161 votes

well so does everyone else. anyone with a dash can dodge all of his abilites. sidestep w sidestep q and dash ult

Whut Thuh Sep 4, 20161 votes

meh speak for yourself

SolitairAug 29, 201612 votes

Gnar has been unplayable most of this season with his win rates hovering on lowest, even going below 50% for the most experienced players. He doesn't need to be gutted. At least he's predictable, takes a lot of effort and time to play well, and doesn't sraight shit on the lane. TBH, I rather him than fucking punishes-you-for-trading-well Irelia

BIH DiamondAug 29, 20162 votes

A ranged champ with a easy escape basically auto wins lane against melees and then turns into a tank and can win team fights with his R. Definitely not bullshit

SolitairAug 29, 20163 votes

Not really. Gnar in mini is instant ramen if he makes a mistake. He can win teamfights, but you can avoid the R combo if you're not horrifically out of position.

BIH DiamondAug 29, 20162 votes

Gnar in mini is instant ramen if he makes a mistake

Which is hard with his dash and slows

you can avoid the R combo if you're not horrifically out of position.

Flash double jump

Is that why pros play him every game almost

SolitairAug 30, 20161 votes

It's not unrealistic to dodge the slow and force the "dash"(able to be interrupted fairly easily and fairly slow). He's really squishy early on. Also, the double jump only works if you can bounce off of something going into mega gnar, which means you were in range for the first jump to connect after the flash, and grouped up badly enough for that to mean death to all. Lets not kid ourselves, the average gnar player doesn't have the pro player's timing.

BIH DiamondSep 3, 20161 votes

It's not unrealistic to dodge the slow and force the "dash"(able to be interrupted fairly easily and fairly slow).

How do you force it? BY using your gap closer/cc? He will probably get out unless he's really overextended

He's really squishy early on

And? He's super safe in mini form and when he transforms he still has his jump/double jump and is tanky with cc.

Lets not kid ourselves, the average gnar player doesn't have the pro player's timing.

Doesn't change the fact that gnar is overloaded as fuck and a stupid champ design

Whut Thuh Sep 4, 20161 votes

you just lost all credebility with me. that like calling zed or yasuo "stupid champ design" they might be overloaded but they have great design. gnar still has a subpar winrate and you just soundlike someone who doesnt like to play agaisnt gnar

BlakiepugAug 29, 20167 votes

True but to be honest, Gragas has been in every game a lot longer than Rek'sai has so I don't mind seeing Rek as much. I am pretty annoyed that Gragas still gets to be in 100% of games whereas Elise has finally fallen out a bit.

EnloctAug 29, 20165 votes

Hey, I'll take this cancer over Nidalee Kindred any day.

But yeah, only having to deal with LeeSin Nunu Shaco sounds amazing these days.

Handin Out NapsAug 29, 20161 votes

Putting Lee sin in the same category as Nunu and Shaco is actually hilarious. You would be better off putting nidalee and kindred in the same category as nunu and shaco, they do the same annoying shit just aren't as useless.

EnloctAug 30, 20161 votes

I was arranging them by time period, not level of annoyingness.

And yes, Nid and Kindred were 100x the cancer of Nunu and Shaco because with those two, they payed for their bullshit. If you survived the shenanigans, they fell off and you won. Nid didn't really fall off anywhere near enough to justify her early power and Kindred is actually strong late and scales infinitely, which is utter bullshit given anyone who ran into her level 2 onward was just dead.

As for Lee, he actually does behave more like the Nunu/Shaco because he actually does fall off. How I sorted them actually works both ways, now that I think about it.

Handin Out NapsAug 30, 20162 votes

Honestly I misread your post, I thought you were saying you would take nid and kindred over lee, nunu and shaco lol. Thought you were a lunatic my b.

MonkeyMadnessAug 29, 20164 votes

I don't. Kinda wish they would add some new junglers to counteract the obviously stale jungle meta they've created, though...

InTheoryAug 29, 20161 votes

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MonkeyMadnessAug 29, 20165 votes

True, but balancing a marksman jungler was always going to be an uphill battle. They should just release some fairly generic champs for the jungle that aren't going to a nightmare for the balance team. It's getting kind of ridiculous, tbh. I enjoy the creativity, but some of these new champs are getting so complex that small little tweaks to their kit can make them insanely overpowered or completely irrelevant. I miss the simple days, where if a champ was not performing as intended, a slight buff/nerf to the damage or cooldown was all that they needed to completely bring that champ back into line with the rest of the meta.

EnlegacyAug 29, 20161 votes

They are buffing Kindred, just post worlds because they don't want to accidentally make her must pick/ban again.

Whut Thuh Aug 29, 20163 votes

gragas takes actually skill and reksai sucks balls rn outside of ranked 5's

PixTronAug 29, 20163 votes

Yeah, I was a Gragas S5 Primary (Primary as in "top pick" but not quite a main, y'know what I mean?). Even now I'm tired of seeing him. And they tried nerfing him by making his kit so clunky with the ult. Just doesn't feel that fun anymore. Can we get back Jarvan IV and Vi, please?

CeexSettAug 29, 20162 votes

The season 5 starting meta where the only viable junglers were Vi and Jarvan. It was pretty much the same now, but it's Rek sai and Gragas.

PixTronAug 30, 20161 votes

That's my point...

GetcuxcdAug 29, 20163 votes

and bronzies say OHMAGAD REKSAI/SHEN/GRAGAS IS GUTTED 30 NERFS RIP :DDDDDDD

SolitairAug 29, 20162 votes

Rek is gutted. She was never all that successful outside of coordinated teams after her first long round of nerfs, and now she's basically a half-assed living ward/knock up bot. She's a slave to her passive, essentially now existing in a "balanced for LCS" state where she feels like an incomplete champion virtually anywhere else.

GetcuxcdAug 29, 20161 votes

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Rek is gutted. She was never all that successful outside of coordinated teams after her first long round of nerfs, and now she's basically a half-assed living ward/knock up bot. She's a slave to her passive, essentially now existing in a "balanced for LCS" state where she feels like an incomplete champion virtually anywhere else.

she has like the best ganks in soloq u call shes gutted u my friend are a baddie and should uninstall for calling reksai gutted im sure ur idea of a good champ is some1 who can 1v5 kill but gtfo of here this aint call of duty bronzie

It Hertz When IPAug 29, 20163 votes

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GetcuxcdAug 29, 20161 votes

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because when some1 says X thing is gutted when it still can wreck high elo solo q fills me with the super strong feeling to slap that person