There is a reason that no one touches her anywhere except in the special snowflakes of silver. "Don't worry we got this."
Why is Shyv a bad pick?
She.
Can't.
Reach.
Anyone.
In the league of mobility, when you lack a gapcloser that's >reliable< you're just wasting everyone's time by trying to be a threat.
Do your team a favor and pick a champion that isn't rotting in a barrel with Veigar.
DatPikachuTho6 votesI mean, she's got her ulti, but honestly, I'd say she's got an even bigger flaw - lack of CC. Even Olaf can catch up to people if he hits his axes, but Shyvana hasn't got anything to keep her target still once she's got to them.
FHMarshy4 voteshttp://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=fioratheexplora
This guy lmfao. Lost one game with a Shyv on his team, and blames the champion.
Dude, 13-5-14 Ahri and 12-2-15 Graves on the enemy team and you blame the jungler.
Peel Your ADC2 votesI've seen more than a fair share of Shyvana picks over the weekend. In fact, one on the enemy team won me a promos match since she literally had no kind of presence.
FHMarshy3 votesSO, your definition of fair share is 2 games?
You faced off against ONE shyv in the last 20 games in which you won.
That Shyvanna went 6-5-7 and had 58% kill participation, most kill participation in game. Your bot lane both had 57% kill participation while your jungler only had 53%
"literally had no kind of presence." Most kill participation in Game.
R.I.P Logic
Peel Your ADC2 votesShe couldn't do anything but tickle people for the first half the game. People sticking around being all out of mana and such really buffed her weak engage.
FHMarshy3 votesSo, lmao most kill participation only because dumb team mates. 2 games you had shyvanna in, you saw one doing shit, it's the champions fault, I pointed to you that the other one was being relevant and all of a sudden it's the enemy team's fault for her getting assists and kills.
That Biased Logic Doe.
Looking at that game you had a Shyv jungle whete you went Mumu top, She had 53% kill participation and you had 42%....Jeez Amumu, Horrible champ.
^ according to your logic.
Peel Your ADC1 votesAmumu has legit cc, shyv doesn't. Was going well until the enemy team could get free objectives since shyvana can't contest objectives when going full armor.
We saw her sit on her ult as Lissandra sat in the middle of the enemy team long enough to lock them down, almost kill someone, ult, zhonyas, have myself as Amumu show up and ult, and then no one dies since it was a 3v5 due to sivir dying instantly and shyvana standing around.
FHMarshy3 votesDoing nothing but has higher kill participation than you? All you needed for an assist was to cry near the enemy..... lol
Not really arguing that Shyv is a good pick or not, but the fact that you are biased in your argument.
Peel Your ADC1 votesI feel that the bias is more looking at numbers alone rather than going through the experience.
FHMarshy3 votesI've played against and with even as Shyv lately and I think she is by no means weak or useless
Droogzy3 votesThrow a frozen mallet and BOTRK on her.
Problem solved, Dragon's Descent onto their ass and they aren't outrunning you. Coupled with her powerfarming and how easily she can counter jungle, she's capable of becoming equivalent of a solo laner in terms of gold and experience, there aren't many other Junglers which can say or boast of that, the only one coming to mind being Nidalee.
Plus, with right build, you can Dragon Descent into a lane, once it runs out, refill it again in around 45 seconds easily. Her only problem is the fact her Ultimate can be stopped with virtually any displacement and the fact that it's buggy as hell sometimes.
Or if you don't want to do that, her ultimate makes for an incredibly good follow up initiation that makes opposing teams split up and panic.
Peel Your ADC1 votesSo two items have to supplement a kit flaw to make her fill out the basics of keeping up with someone. Two expensive items that a jungler needs to have the luxury of buying with the excess of gold in the jungle. Power farming is nice and all, but then again, jungle camps need to spawn quicker to make up the gold deficit.
LXII2 votesIdk, she counter jungles like a mad-woman, and that itself is a pretty big advantage. She's not really a good ganker unless the enemy is way over extended, but she shines in team fights. Not the best pick, but she does have her merits.
redniwediS2 votesWhy are you so kill focused? You don't have to chase people down all the time. Having high damage on an tanky champion is enough to alter the enemy team's positioning if you're around, use that to your advantage instead of complaining about mobility.
And besides, there are still people out there who think Garen jungle is a thing. Worry about them instead of people who play someone with actual clear times and high dueling potential.
Peel Your ADC1 votesHaving high damage on something that can't reach anything not stationary is kinda moot.
redniwediS1 votesIt's like Blitz and his pull, the threat of a pull often forces enemies to play in a way they normally wouldn't. It's the same with beefy damage dealers.
If you're always in the correct position sure, Shyvanna won't be able to deal much damage, however if you get caught out she can and will destroy you. If Shyvanna gets ahead the very threat of her damage can force a team to play safe when they should not be. You can deny her high movement speed, but you can't deny her damage.
SmknWdl2 voteshttp://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/340/256/f26.png
Shyvana is an incredibly good pick IN THE RIGHT SITUATIONS. You have to be good at her, but you can really build a variety of things on her. Semi damage, full tank, most things work. She also has great chasing potential with 
and burnout, so cc isn't too much of an issue in chases. Although there are better picks, she is definitely not a bad champ. I have carried many games with her, and her clear speed is ridiculous. Counter jungle queen, i think. Please get some facts before instantly calling champs trash.
Peel Your ADC2 votesCounterjungling is practically a waste of time this season, as the camp spawns are 20 and a half centuries. Getting a bork first is going to get you killed in a few seconds since kiting is still relevant without her ult.
CC is mandatory if you want to be any sort of threat. That's just how it is with everyone jumping around everywhere.
insaiyanbacca2 votesjust saying counter jungling can screw the enemy jungler over so hard
Peel Your ADC1 votesHow? They are gonna miss them wolves while the enemy jungler has a successful gank somewhere?
insaiyanbacca2 votessay they gank bot with shyv's clear speeds she can usually clear their entire top side jungle which means thats half their jungle they have to wait to respawn
Peel Your ADC1 votesIf that gank in bot is taking long enough to get the raptors, krugs and scuttle crab, then they may walk away with a dragon and a tower.
Is it worth?
SmknWdl1 votesmy build path is 
either 
or
or boots, usually merc treads for the tenacity, then 
then ill get either or (depending on what i didnt get.)
TakaDama2 votesHer biggest flaws are a lack of CC and a mess of various Scalings and Damage types. All she needs is a 1s Stun with her Q on targets marked with E (with a possible Udyr bear stance spam clause) and maybe bonus health scaling on her W instead of AD scaling (she works best with either AS or CDR anyway, not straight AD or AP).
Otherwise, she's still a strong duelist, strong jungler/counterjungler, and has strong mobility with W and Ult. Not the best pick, but not the worst.
Peel Your ADC2 votesIf we wanna look at scaling with cc and mobility while being a strong duelist, the better version of shyvana poked her head in.
Her name is Rek'sai.
Ser Garland1 votesHave you ever seen a reksai duel a shyvana? It doesn't go well for the burrower.
S H A Y C 02 votesthe most retarded speed up in the game with a red baron diving ult and she cant reach anyone???? since when is running really fast not a reliable gap closer..anyhow, not much else to say here.
Peel Your ADC2 votesHer ult is the only "gapcloser" that easily interrupted by pretty much anything. Considering that's her one shining point, there is literally no redeeming factor.
S H A Y C 02 votesso you wouldnt consider 
a gap closer or an escape tool?
Peel Your ADC3 votesIf they're already on you? Probably not getting away. Gap closer? Mmm... If its unwarded, you might surprise them if you have a follow up such as a stun
IcyPepper2 votesBy that logic, Fiora is a crappy top laner with no cc, escapes, or teamfighting utility outside her damage.
Peel Your ADC2 votesThat's why Mid is so forgiving :D
Who needs to escape when you have the best cc: death?
IcyPepper1 votesI'd like to play her bot so I have a utility support watching my back.
Assassins crap on adc's, something I've learned with Fiora bot.
Martyrofsand2 votesReally? I was pretty sure that I was rather useful when I buried a Sej so bad she has Cinderhulk and boots at 20 minutes in while being 4 levels behind out bot lane, and closer to 6 behind our solo laners.
No she isn't gonna gank and no she isn't gonna eat carries, thats not her job. She is going to bury the enemy jungler, secure objectives, and then frontline like a boss for her team while they go to work.
GundayMonday1 votesYou definitely need a specific team comp around her. Someone with cc and slows so you can auto attack, or a 1 3 1 comp so you can split and destroy anyone that tries to 1v1 you. She's viable, just not in EVERY situation.
dalphy081 votesThe person who made this topic...clearly isn't very smart or skilled at the game. I'd just ignore them honestly. Shyvana is perfectly suited for jungling as is any champion.
Peel Your ADC1 votesIn comparison to, say, Rek'sai, Vi, Hecarim, Lee Sin, Sion, or even J4, Shyvana can't even hope to create as much map pressure as any of them.
dalphy081 votesNot true at all! Shyvana is a 100% balanced character. Just keep practicing!
Onimus Terlain1 votesHer only problem is lack of CC. She has Mobility out the ass. Have you ever caught a Shyvana that doesn't want to be caught?
If they put a 30-60% slow on her E, she'd immediately become a very sought after pick.
Giving her hard CC would be insane given how much damage she can pump out and the speed at which she clears.
