SION can't use his summoner spells during his passive

KONO RUBICK DA·Oct 26, 2015·3 votes·674 views

why? it already has a 1.5 second delay or something

13 Comments

Blade of JusticOct 26, 20156 votes

I'm guessing because Riot doesn't like the idea of Sion actually being able to do something in that passive state.

Edit: Don't know why I said "ult"

JbelsOct 26, 20153 votes

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I'm guessing because Riot doesn't like the idea of Sion actually being able to do something in that ult.

You know, the sad thing is that Exhaust wouldbe pretty damn viable on him if he could use them during passive

RogueWillOct 26, 20151 votes

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I'm guessing because Riot doesn't like the idea of Sion actually being able to do something in that passive state.

Edit: Don't know why I said "ult"

He can't use summoners during ult either do, so is impossible to flash into an enemy on the side to it him.

KONO RUBICK DAOct 26, 20151 votes

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I'm guessing because Riot doesn't like the idea of Sion actually being able to do something in that passive state.

Edit: Don't know why I said "ult"

i guess so, sion is doomed to be bad since his release

Blade of JusticOct 26, 20151 votes

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i guess so, sion is doomed to be bad since his release

Pre-rework Sion wasn't a failure. He just needed to be reworked into a state that pushed him more towards the melee focused brawler that his AD build would have you play as.

Instead, they made him into a CC tank that was easily danced around.

It was a fun concept, but they fixed him having a split kit by filling a new kit with tons of "It only works if your enemies mess up" gimmicks.

Where as before, he had half of his kit working all the time, he now has all of his kit working half of the time.

KONO RUBICK DAOct 26, 20152 votes

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Pre-rework Sion wasn't a failure. He just needed to be reworked into a state that pushed him more towards the melee focused brawler that his AD build would have you play as.

Instead, they made him into a CC tank that was easily danced around.

It was a fun concept, but they fixed him having a split kit by filling a new kit with tons of "It only works if your enemies mess up" gimmicks.

Where as before, he had half of his kit working all the time, he now has all of his kit working half of the time.

before, all his kit was working as intended, he was a darius who attacked instead of casting spell, going full tank while doing damage

his old passive was rng but it made him tanking his Q was a point and click cc and a high base damage spell (300) which made it doing incredible damage until high level his W was bad if you were AD, but it had also a high base damage his E gave him AD to allow him to do damage while being tanky his ulti gave him utility (healing team mate) and high attack speed+lifesteal which allowed him to 1v1 and do damage against while being tanky

Old sion just needed the new bruiser items that we have now to not be bursted down/kited easily.

ViashinoWizardOct 26, 20152 votes

No time for spells, only time for PUNCH

delonixOct 26, 20151 votes

He can use item actives though, so enjoy that.

ErockandrollOct 27, 20151 votes

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He can use item actives though, so enjoy that.

The problem with that is. Itemizing for his passive is really counter intuitive for his general play. Very few Tank items are going to allow you to lock down you enemy so you can whale on them. (With the only modern exception being dead man's plate)

I think riot intends it more to be a zoning tool. Of coarse Sion can't actually do anything except chase the enemy. But some times that's enough. (if you don't want to get whaled on by sion, get away from that dragon.)

Also there is still a few ticks that his Passive still has that are useful. (from getting that last bit of CS to doing a level 2 cheese with a Jungle camp.)

SukishooOct 26, 20151 votes

Cause that'd be OP.

KONO RUBICK DAOct 26, 20152 votes

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Cause that'd be OP.

of course, i forgot that he should just walk while dying or expecting his enemies to be dumb

MelledoneusOct 27, 20152 votes

Because being made useless in a team fight because somebody slowed you once is fair. It's almost useless late game when all Thresh has to do is press E to make your passive useless.

KONO RUBICK DAOct 27, 20151 votes

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Because being made useless in a team fight because somebody slowed you once is fair. It's almost useless late game when all has to do is press E to make your passive useless.

clearly he shouldn't be allowed to do something