Can anyone seriously tell me? Cause Ekko on paper seems to do so much more than Diana Ekko has lower CD, larger shield, more mobility, not fully required to hit skill shots, I would consider his passive better for the insane CC and the fact it can apply to numerous people, also ult with numerous uses...
NemeBro66 votesDiana's prettier.
Vistha Kai3 votesI don't think she's that kind of a girl you could take on a beach, though.
Davy Crockett4 votesYou could take her when the full moon is out.
Vistha Kai5 votesThat'd be a great way to get laid or bathe in non-Moon-worshipping fools' blood... and then getting laid.
TurquoiseYoshi4 votesThis is the funniest thing I've seen all day XD
Jamaree48 votesDiana's shield is insta and doesn't need to be placed to properly use, her burst is more instant and direct, her triple proc is AoE, her hard CC is also instant.
Vegas Dad2 votesDiana's shield is insta and doesn't need to be placed to properly use, her burst is more instant and direct, her triple proc is AoE, her hard CC is also instant.
should be banned from ever playing again for suggesting diana has instant hard CC. If you don't know what you are talking about don't talk.
So far not a single valid reason has been posted either....ekko bursts just as hard as diana, he has more mobility, is safer, and has better mana pool to do it all with as well. Basically you dont play diana you play ekko.
Well okay the real reason you play diana instead of ekko is diana is not perma banned.
Jamaree17 votes[{quoted}](name=Vegas Dad,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=03kMFEb7,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2015-06-08T10:15:45.914+0000)
should be banned from ever playing again for suggesting diana has instant hard CC.
You are right, I'm sorry, there is a .5 second delay before it pulls someone in. Please stfu you dumb bastard.
If you don't know what you are talking about don't talk.
Should really follow your own advice
So far not a single valid reason has been posted either....ekko bursts just as hard as diana, he has more mobility, is safer, and has better mana pool to do it all with as well. Basically you dont play diana you play ekko.
Yes, he probably does, but unlike Diana, to get the majority of his burst in safely because he isn't tanky, he isn't, he needs to land his circle in a good spot, or he then has to fight straight up without a shield or stun. So yes, when he has to work to actually get his hard CC and his shield, he should get just as much burst.
Celeste Benal1 votesActually, he's right. Diana's E is pretty bad. It needs to be reworked. I hesitate to even call it CC. AoE blind maybe?
straight4free4 votes[{quoted}](name=Celeste Benal,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=03kMFEb7,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2015-06-08T14:50:48.284+0000)
Actually, he's right. Diana's E is pretty bad. It needs to be reworked. I hesitate to even call it CC. AoE blind maybe?
Diana's E is really good... It was broken AF when she was released, in fact. There's a reason the prime Diana combo in a teamfight is Q-W-R-E-Zhonya's, the E really makes it easy for the rest of your team to go in while you're invulnerable.
What Is Smite1 votesor replace that E with teammate Galio Flash-Ult,it always gets them
Ancestor0071 votes
disagrees
Hyrum Graff1 votesDiana's shield is insta and doesn't need to be placed to properly use, her burst is more instant and direct, her triple proc is AoE, her hard CC is also instant.
Additionally, her CC pulls enemies together, allowing for better wombo combos, and she can stack her passive on a different target than the final one, meaning in lane she can stack it on minions and then r-aa-w-q for a trade that nobody can match.
Her ult is also on a very short cooldown, especially at later levels.
shalec42 votesDiana's abilities aren't telegraphed or on long delays.
RouterSmiter24 votesshe doesnt get perma banned
Dreadlocks21 votesDiana has faster burst.
Kãtãrinã10 votesI'm not arguing if you should or shouldnt but they are different champions. Mostly you just use diana for insta burst QERRW they die. the shield is also instant I think ekko is good to but ekko isn't remotely as durable as diana.
Tsohgder7 votesDiana has more sustained damage, easier burst, higher scaling, a reliable AA damage boost, a lower CD gapcloser (if you land your Q), reliable shield, and overall more tankiness. Also, she won't be nerfed next patch.
I THINK DIANA IS THE SUPERIOR VERSION OF EKKO, COME AT ME BRUH!
Big Bang Bob7 votesTechnically she is more mobile.
She also tells killer moon jokes.
ThePlasticSpork3 votesDiana used to be considered one of the best initiators in the game. She still has all the elements that made her good at that - she's just slightly weaker now.
Anyways, all of her abilities can be delivered in a timeframe of about a second, much faster and more reliably than Ekko can deliver his own. Diana can forcibly group several members of the enemy team for followup - she doesn't even really need to land her Q to do so either.
Diana has better waveclear, and her passive also gives her attack speed and procs on towers, which makes her a faster pusher as well.
AbsoluteSadman2 votesDiana is tankier.
The Bearded Bard2 votesTankier, faster damage, more aoe, more damage, more sticking power, and her CC is more reliable. They're completely different champions.
DJ Hatsune Miku2 votesShe's an ap bruiser that can go assassin or front line easily. She brings a lot of flexibility to a team and Ekko does not.
thinking man2 votesDiana is a WAY better champion unless you walk into Ekko's shit.
Reikken2 votesBurst. Diana has_ much_ more burst (unless you're doing it from fog of war, there is no reason to get hit by ekko's ult)
Aych Pii2 votesEkko needs to hit Q to do any significant damage unless someone walks over his ult or has no escape mechanism whatsoever. His ult and W are extremely telegraphed and have loads of counterplay. He doesn't have resets. He's way squishier. His shield is way conditional. His passive requires hitting the same person three times instead of just swinging three times in general.
Take your pick.
What Is Smite1 votesEkko needs to hit the return on Q*
Fixed that for you, unless you meant his late game Q which deals quite a bit if you have not built resistances
Aych Pii1 votesYup, that's what I meant. It's usually not too hard for him to get that first hit, but avoiding the second hit can be done reliably unless he zones you exceptionally well.
Lajinn51 votesI think Diana would likely dunk Ekko in a fight, but I haven't had the pleasure of trying the matchup so I'm not sure.
Singing Lark2 votesProbably? Diana is somewhat infamous for being an assassin that assassinates assassins.
Vistha Kai1 votesThat's a lot of ass.
Singing Lark1 votesShush. Secretly everyone wants dat booty.
SH Azykan1 votesDiana has better wave clear, and is tankier. Also can interrupt Channeled ults like Nunu/Katarina pretty much instantly. I think that is pretty much it though o.o
Celeste Benal1 votesDiana has better wave clear
Not. Ekko's Q wipes entire waves with one cast. Done.
SH Azykan1 votesif there is a large wave like in a side lane, Diana will clear it far faster since she can line up her Q with the arc and clear all the casters and then her W+3rd AA proc will clear the melee's.
A single lined up wave of 6 minions, sure Ekko's Q can clear it. Diana's can clear the casters and leave melee's with low enough hp for anything to kill them.
In a siege scenario, Diana's will also chunk the enemy if they are with their minions harder (unless they stick in Ekko's Q for the return path)
SoMNia1 votesEkko can clear a large wave with one spell.
Diana can clear with two spells and three auto-attacks.
But Diana has better waveclear?
???
SH Azykan1 votesEkko can clear a small wave with 1 Q not a large one and only once he is like 3-4 items (depending on what you built)
Diana can clear a large wave with Q+W+AA on 1 and a half items (Small wave with Q+W) Ekko has to wait for his Q to come back off CD to clear the rest of the large wave and even then might not get it fully cleared depending on how it lined up
So yes in my opinion Diana's waveclear is better
KazaLyn Shao1 votesBecause Diana isn't permabanned like Ekko is. Next question.
D1rtFarmer1 votesshe destroys ekko tho... not to mention she can proc her passive on anything... not specifically the target intended... and its aoe.. i find diana to be much more straight forward than ekko... shes damage on demand. i feel you btw.. but i consider her more of a Now and ekko more of a Later... type of styles.
Arveanor1 votesDoes the sanctity of your everlasting soul count as "gameplay" ?
Mecha MaIphite1 votesDiana can go even against bruisers. Ekko just gets shit on by them.
What Is Smite1 votesIn terms of scaling survivability diana has the upper hand being able to utilize a plethora of AP items unlike ekko who seems to be stuck to AP assassin itemization. I mean comparing the two builds doesn't do much rather than state the obvious fact that Diana has more utility compared to ekko since her ult is a free cast everytime she lands her Q and with a CDR build (if some people do that) then I believe her Q is on an 8 second CD with the mark lasting for 2-3 seconds, someone correct me if I am wrong since I don't play Diana
Vistha Kai1 votesActually Diana with maxed CDR has Q on a 3.6 sec cooldown and the mark lasts 3 seconds. Lunar Rush goes down to 9 seconds.
Although she doesn't have a lot of CDR options for her assassin build.
SH Azykan1 votesMorellonomicon + Lucidity boots + 5% cdr in runes or masteries? or you can go sorc shoes with scaling cdr blues and the 5% masteries for 40% cdr with the morello still.
There are options, but they might just not be 100% ideal XD
Don't really need much CDR on her Assassin build though...20% is generally enough
Squarefighter1 votesDiana is waaaaaay more reliable and doesn't have everything telegraphed like Ekko does. She also does a lot more sustained damage.
Mistral1 votesHaving played both, Diana to me - is just more fun to play. I have a nightmare of a time trying to land all of Ekko's moves and he frustrates me. Also - Diana is prettier. I vote on that one.
Mike Kachowski1 votesHer gapcloser has a longer range and she is not as squishy. Someone will undoubtedly say "but hurr durr Ekko is not squishy". He is really squishy unless he gets a good W. (His instant save, his ult, neither means that he is not squishy.
Transgressor1 votesShe has more sustained dps and scales into something tankier than what Ekko will ever be, plus she's fucking hot, so there's that.
SoMNia1 votesDiana has more burst damage, and unlike Ekko, she has sustained damage and benefits significantly from attack speed. Her passive can be primed by attacking minions, gives AoE damage (and more damage than Ekko's), and has no cooldown. Her shield lasts up to 10 seconds and can be activated on demand, while Ekko's is likely to expire long before it's destroyed and requires a setup longer than its duration. She has frequent gap closers and a reason to stay on her opponent rather than hit and run. She is a semi-tanky AP bruiser, while Ekko is a skirmisher/almost-assassin with no ability to stay in the middle of a fight and keep dishing out damage. To top it all off, Diana's moves don't have ridiculously long tells that make it simple to avoid most of the damage, while Ekko's do.
RisenDarkKnight1 votesYou can use you ult for damage even if they enemy team is smart
