I feel Luden echo is way out of hands

taleofsonata··1 votes·322 views

The main problem with luden echo is the Base damage of 100. The ap ratio is fine but the base damage is ridiculous. Champion with combo can proc luden echo twice in a row. Lets give an exemple on leblanc. Each abilities give luden echo 20 stacks. What if Leblanc has 100 Stacks at the beginning? She would:

Q (Proc luden echo), R(+20), W (+20), E (+20) While the champion is chained she can move gaining stacks + 1 per steps. and by that her Q would be up for another Luden Echo Proc

Dealing a total of : 100+100+ 30% Luden echo damage :O

Katarina same thing if she gets a single reset, God the humanity on her Luden Echo Proc. If done correctly she can proc it like 5 times for a total of 500+75%, is that a bit too much?

Casseopiea is the same problem by spamming E while moving Luden Echo will constantly proc + her Q W R making it ridiculous. Not only that Cass movmenet speed after hitting Q help stacking luden EVEN MORE.

Champion that should have benefit from luden echo does seems to make much out of that item. Because of terrible low cooldown on mostly W E and terrible movement speed.

3 Comments

Wickedfates1 votes

im just curious do u also dislike statikk shiv?

taleofsonata1 votes

Statikk shiv doesnt benefit from casting aswell as auto attack arent a threat because they do not scale with % AD. Statikk shiv is great at wave clearing and there is only ADC and certain Melee assassins fighter who use it but has never been a trouble unlike Luden Echo. Nobody is gonna let you auto attack them for free you would die the instant you dare to do it. But assassins AP assassins champion and dps mage such as cass makes luden echo such a good item that building it 1st would be having a huge advantage.

Another thing Statikk shiv doesn`t do well compare to luden echo Luden echo is AP + Abilities aP damage combination which does pure Ap Damage while benefitting from void staff or any Mr reduction items.

Why would an AD champion benefit from an item who does AP damage instead of AD? If Stattik shiv did ad damage it would benefit from Armor pen but not the main purpose of it is to wave clear and some extra hybrid damage but I`d rather build Phantom dancer than statikk in most games I play just for the extra crit and ability to walk over minions soo I can kite well.

colesy1 votes

it's funny because most people when they saw luden's echo thought it would be terrible

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