At this point deleting hurricane, shiv and PD...

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You mean completely gut them?

alas people can not understand /s

That's kinda the point. It'd put them on par with mages, rather than keep ADCs as the gods of this game like season 1 and 2.

Only difference between now and then is everything else is obscenely weak outside of assassins and a couple outliers, and ADCs are relevant from level 1...so basically ADCs are more OP than season 1 and 2, when they were nerfed as a class for being too strong.

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As a side note, PD should legitimately be deleted or reworked. The item is obscenely over-tuned, but can't be nerfed otherwise it wouldn't be worth using either.

I don't see itemization to let melees stick to current ADCs better, so why do ADCs get an item that invalidates melees more than they already did?

If you're going to argue something about bruisers or tanks, remember that both are usually specifically counter-building ADCs. And ADCs can still kill them if they don't make too many mistakes.

If you're going to argue Fmal or IBG, they let you stick to ADCs, yeah...if you're a champion that has a strong gap-closer, follow-up, and the ADC isn't any of the ones currently being played.

Well if it had everythign except the damage reduction and all other zeal crit items lost 5 to 10% crit chance it would have a reason.

BUt the ammount of crit chance is way over tuned this season compared to past seasons.

Zeal needs to have less crit chacne then attack speed and that would be a good starters but whenever I say this people down vote are blind to the fact that this is making 3 marksmen 2 tanks actually one of the best team comps you can have.