New Sightstones

PhDs Nuts·10/23/2014, 6:24:28 PM·35 votes·3,941 views

The addition of support items made the bot lane a lot more diverse, but the options for vision are still pretty lacking. To give incentive for other lanes (and supports that want to build offensively) to build vision beyond spending gold on just wards, there could be three versions of the Sightstone:

  1. Lifestone - 150 HP and builds out of a Ruby Crystal.
  2. Bladestone - 12 AD and builds out of a Longsword.
  3. Magestone - 25 AP and builds out of an Amplifying Tome.

Three versions of Ruby Sightstone:

  1. Ruby Lifestone - 400 HP and builds out of a Sightstone and a second Ruby Crystal.
  2. Steel Bladestone - 30 AD and builds out of a Bladestone and a second Longsword.
  3. Sapphire Magestone - 50 AP and builds out of a Magestone and a second Amp Tome.

Combine costs can be adjusted to have equal gold efficiency, but they're already really close (1060g, 1080g, and 1088g respectively). Gold value for wards is identical for all three, since they'd operate the same way.

Edit: Suggestions from others include a version for attack speed, and a late game version that offers both offense and HP.

45 Comments

Diljic10/23/2014, 8:44:01 PM11 votes

Wardstone - builds out of 5 green wards and 1 pink ward Master Wardstone - It's Season 3 baby, light up that map

Divine Reaver10/23/2014, 8:29:55 PM5 votes

Instead of wasting your time trying to force people to buy something they aren't going to buy, just fix the ward system to the way it was so I alone can drop more than 3 wards at a time. Before the limiter I used to have the entire map covered but now I'm forced to rely on strangers, which is a nice concept but is not practical. Riot please, let me drop at least 5 wards at a time.

2nd Fiddle10/23/2014, 9:48:53 PM5 votes

LeeSin "I can't see this ending badly."

TeemoJenkins10/23/2014, 6:34:16 PM4 votes

I super like it. I split between AD and AP supports and building HP on the AP's helps survival, but not much else beyond that, I would love the options.

Nucleophilic atk10/23/2014, 9:19:37 PM3 votes

If only Rito listened to the community....

Quepha10/23/2014, 11:26:26 PM2 votes

unless they're removing trinkets, this change would make no sense at all.

Steelflame10/23/2014, 9:17:08 PM2 votes

I wouldn't let it have the full 4 wards on the versions of it. I'd make them like Flare/Golem, a single ward holder, that refreshes when the previous one runs out.

YGW Caspie10/24/2014, 2:13:51 AM2 votes

I'd like one that has crit chance, +crit damage, and AD ... call it the Infinitystone and maybe then my ADC will buy and place wards too. /s

Honestly Sightstone ideas get brought up a lot, and for the most part making them gold efficient with extra stats probably isn't healthy for the game. That being said I think they need a ward slot so my mid laner and jungler on my ranked 5s team stop using the excuse of "I don't have any spots for wards..." because that pisses me off when I see a shitty longsword taking up their 6th slot at 35 mins in the game, that 10 damage though.

I'm salty. 8)

Remlap122310/24/2014, 7:26:57 AM1 votes

Bladestone - 12 AD and builds out of a Longsword.

Gangplank support intensifies.

OrangesSC10/24/2014, 2:40:06 PM1 votes

LeeSin Would be all over that Bladestone

TeemoHunter133710/24/2014, 7:13:36 PM1 votes

lower down the magestone to 20 ap then the ruby magestone to 40 ap.

we dont need annies,zyras,morganas etc all support mages becoming more powerful

FantasySniper10/24/2014, 10:59:00 PM1 votes

There doesn't need to be AD.

Unless of course you want sightstone to be even more viable on LeeSin

Sir Bulldog10/25/2014, 12:56:21 AM1 votes

I'm sorry but I don't see this as a good idea. Yes, it would encourage other lanes to ward, but therein lies the problem. With this change, all of the other lanes would buy it. What does that mean? It means that the jungler would have a much tougher time ganking because the opponents would always see him coming.

If Riot does implement this, I would make them have a crazy long cool-down like 150-200 seconds. Otherwise the map would always be warded making the job of the jungler even harder (as if it's not hard enough already).

balbraaksel10/25/2014, 2:27:31 AM1 votes

Riot should offer an alternative for the Sightstone and Ruby Sightstone since they remade Soraka to have a skill costing 10% of her health.

7ha7guy77710/23/2014, 6:36:43 PM1 votes

it's definitely an interesting concept. it'd help support the fact that vision isn't just the support's job

FarRockBF10/23/2014, 8:32:23 PM1 votes

I like it

StoryDuck10/24/2014, 12:42:14 AM1 votes

HP as the only option on Sightstone is often a wasted stat. Janna often build's Mejai's because her positioning is far from the frontline to peel for adc. That health rarely helps her. I love the idea of other options.

Lao Fu the Tiger10/24/2014, 1:21:07 AM1 votes

And what item would you replace on your current build for your Magestone? A Void Staff perhaps? Or the Hourglass?

merchantfees10/24/2014, 1:23:16 AM1 votes

everyone would buy oracles and there would be a ton of ward clearing.

possible balance change would be to increase reward for killing wards so there'd be an inherent cost in 3 people buying these items and dropping 9 wards everywhere.

want 9 wards ? you risk enemy team using oracles and getting 75 gold per ward

merchantfees10/24/2014, 1:24:27 AM1 votes

perhaps a sliding value based on number of sight stones a team has. extra 15 gold per ward killed for every sight stone a team has

Wullf10/24/2014, 6:38:12 AM1 votes

No support with bit of sense would buy AD over HP.

AP might be bought for specific broken supports, but still, sustain is really valuable for supports in the lane. And even more so in late.