The Fat Lady Has Sung

hotarse·Mar 4, 2016·2 votes·1,090 views

And when she did, TSM was looking down the barrel of another loss! What an embarrassment for TSM!

21 Comments

Emperor TimeMar 4, 20162 votes

See kids, death timers don't lose games, throwing your 10k gold lead loses games.

SlappybiscuitMar 4, 20161 votes

It's wonderful isn't it?

hotarseMar 4, 20163 votes

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It's wonderful isn't it?

It was hilarious! And any time Fiora loses, and I mean any time (well, maybe not when c9 plays her cuz I love balls(eww did i just say that I loved balls?)) it's a good day for me!

SiytherMar 4, 20161 votes

their teamfights are just plain bad. Ive seen better teamfights form bronze 5 players

hotarseMar 4, 20161 votes

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their teamfights are just plain bad. Ive seen better teamfights form bronze 5 players

Burger King probably had a little too much special sauce the night before.

MasziiMar 4, 20161 votes

You could perfectly see, if they helped D-Lift kill the lucian (who was the only damage threat) instead of Bjerg/Sven/Hauntzer go for the Naut/TF Ever wouldnt been able to end.

MasziiMar 4, 20161 votes

TBH even though i laughed really really hard and even fell off my chair. This showed the exact problem of the deathtimers in the game.

hotarseMar 4, 20162 votes

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TBH even though i laughed really really hard and even fell off my chair. This showed the exact problem of the deathtimers in the game.

I kind of agree with you to a point. It sucks to get so many advantages in a game but to lose it because you get aced... but seriously... TSM should not have gotten aced at that point. I think it was good that ever could actually end the game off of that, punishing TSM for their poor teamfighting.

About their team fighting, I'd say they're suffering from communication issues.

LauchmelderMar 4, 20161 votes

I don't see why a Team that completely lost the earlygame, midgame and a part of lategame should be allowed to end the game based on one bad teamfight (non LCS based comment) from the other side.

Comeback? yes Win? Only with effort, not due to deathtimers

MasziiMar 4, 20163 votes

TSM had 9 turrets 2 inhibs 3 drakes and a huge gold lead. Then you get 1 teamfight @ 35 minutes and you lose vs the team that hasnt been at your redbuff for the past 30 minutes. I mean wtf. Im not saying its unfair or anything, it just doenst make sense. It makes people not want to make plays because 1 teamfight lose and you done for the game.

Earl EulrichMar 4, 20162 votes

oh come on, it´s not like Ever hasn´t won 4teamfights while being 6k down in a row to stall the game to that point...so in this instance i think it had been fair for them to take the game of of that brilliant fight from them.

For the game in general i agree though, in SoloQ where you can´t really be blamed for not playing out the map as a team perfectly this fights can be way too punishing. For TSM though it had just been punishing enough.

MasziiMar 4, 20161 votes

Isnt this what im saying, only adding it doesnt make sense? Also i dont really care bout TSM.

Earl EulrichMar 4, 20161 votes

it could have also just shown the issue of snowballing perfectly - if a team that actually knows their strategy like CLG or Vit gets such an early advantage in the first 5min you can already surrender as they will just close it out in 25-30min due to fiora killing all your inhibs solo while you have no tools at all to ever stop her (or you have to commit so much that her team just pushes through on the other side of the map).

MasziiMar 4, 20161 votes

True and it showed the problem of TSM (maybe even coaching failures). But then again if you get aced at 35 minutes you shouldnt instantly lose the game.

Earl EulrichMar 4, 20161 votes

yea, that´s really the issue this (pre)season...at 20min teams that get a lead early on already look to break the base and at 35min it´s hyper lategame - everything is happening 20min earlier than in previous seasons and it just breaks the game.

Earl EulrichMar 4, 20161 votes

it´s like they tried to copy CLG with their really well drafted 1-3-1 comp but had no idea at all how to actually make it work. I mean they got what they deserved in the end...but oh lord. I really hope Yellowstar will ever recover from joining TSM.

Emperor TimeMar 4, 20161 votes

I don't think that Yellowstar is even that great to be honest. Like yea Fnatic last year was good, but that's mostly because of Huni and Reignover. All Yellowstar really has going for him is his shot calling and well you can't shot call a team full of all-stars. He's basically the Hai of Europe.

MasziiMar 4, 20161 votes

His mechanics are not the best idd. But he knowledge/teamfighting/shotcalling are his key aspects. But when you get into TSM where everyone is shotcalling during the TF and Sven/Hauntzer tend to hug Bjergs ass (as you could perfectly see in the lost fight at baron) those qualities wont shine trough.

If they just stayed with D-Lift and Yellow and try to kill the Lucian, Ever cant end.

BadmoonBCMar 4, 20161 votes

The problem with tsm is they don't have a shot caller They are all supposed to kick in their thoughts on a call but that's not how it works for good teams. You havcan one guy who calls shots and you follow him. Otherwise you will just have 5 guys arguing and talking over each other. What's always worked for tsm in the past? Bjerg calling shots and playing carries. They need to go back to that to salvage The season

MasziiMar 4, 20161 votes

They just need to respect Yellow's shotcalling, let Bjerg do his thing. Problem is Hauntzer needs more help than expected (Yellow was surprised by this aswell).