Every major region has won worlds but NA
Eu, LMS, LCK and now the LPL
Eu, LMS, LCK and now the LPL
Well to be fair, NA needs to split the country. They need East/West/Central servers for America. Split the regions into LA Chicago and NY and work on getting ping averages for most players below 20, and you will see NA improve. Also, people not being bitches and being willing to talk work and grow at the competitive level in diamond Challenger would be nice too. My favorite thing from world's was all the NA players talking about "Omg Solo Queue players talk to each other after games and discuss in game decisions and compositions!". Yes it's called a region wanting to be competitive and willing to work for it. NA just want the results and don't care about the team, they want the glory of saying "look how awesome I am!". It's why Doublelift always falls apart at world's. He has no trust in his team, and makes aggressive moves at inopportune moments and gets punished. Like him walking up to a Mid laner with all their spells up when he's a level down and half health and then acting surprised that he dies.
look if China doesn't split i don't see any reason for NA to split
Look, if Europe is split, I don’t see why NA can’t be split.
there are plenty of arguments for why europe shouldn't be split... like server location... and the fact the even in Nordic countries ppl play EUW... like EUW is just the bigger server... NA pings are lower if your in NA no need to make a "region" smaller when there is no server based advantages from it. EUNE has worse ping than EUW even if you are in a EU"NE" country. Riot should merge EU.
EU won before the Koreans joined the tournament, so that really doesn’t count.
It was and still is called Worlds, they got there rings in 2014. I understand that tho. So the Season 1 Worlds was really a EU > NA.........again
What about MSI my man, who beat SKT? Who won the fastest international BO5 in a international finals? Who reached Finals at worlds last year? cause i didn't see korea there
Yep, the one International tournament where NA didn't get bent over! [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]
only took like.........9 years.....
well i would call the finals rape, but i digress...
but on the other side of the coin this is the furthest an NA team has made it. C9 being in semi finals and getting out of their group was quite a feat
I suppose.......for NA
ye semi finals in worlds, finals in MSI... (lets not talk about how that became a new record in international BO5s tho)
NA needs to find their own style man, Korea has the slow safe style they perfected, EU has the explosive creativity style crafted on young and new talent, China has the skilled calculated style using sheer number of players and teams, what does NA have? Korean imports, a ton of them... And a hand full of Danish players (LMAO, a tiny ass country) all TL need is to kick out Jensen and replace him with Pobelter to make a Asian "super team"
Huh? doublelift, pobelter and xmithie are all american.
what the hell you talkin about?
Korean Americans or ABCs, still Asians lmao.
NA is to busy smurfing to get that competitive. Any potential new player will have to deal with a wave of players who are at least gold who got tired of improving and just want to rofl stomp newbies.
that is any region bro, sorry to break it to ya, i play on EUW, EUNE and my first region i played on was NA. Smurfing at lower elos is an issue in all regions.
Its becuase NA is a shit region in terms of competitiveness.
The fact that most players here are sensitive to flame/criticism and a vast majority of players play for fun( "4fun" btw). NA just dosent stand a chance.
The benefits of streaming and goofing off is > countless hrs practicing to win a trophy that the grand prize is = to say Impact's last contract to just win NA alone(1 million).
I thought with so many Eu players coming over to NA(Febiven, PowerofEvil) the NA scene would not only become more 'competitive' but also would help our International success(but nope). Hopefully the 2019 season for all regions is fun to watch because the 2018 Summer Split of average 20 min games was boring and so was this Worlds(unpredictable but 20 min stomps aren't fun to watch).
you would prefer 50 min games with 20 min passive laning and 20 min Baron dances more fun to watch? congrats man your special then...
also, is Doublelift not "competitive" enough for you? he literally calls everybody trash. My question is more when have you ever seen NA develop new homegrown talent? Now lets see EU just last year Caps started as a rookie, goes on to reach Worlds finals, win MSI and is currently 3 time LEC Champion. What about Nemesis? first year rookie and on the second best team in EU. NA only relies on the few veterans of Doublelift, Bjergsen, Aphromoo, Huni Etc
Yes, I enjoyed the 50 min games with 20 min passive laning than these 20 min bronze style fight, fight, fight, 100-0 1 click abilities games that League of Mortal Kombat Legends is now. Games in the competitive scene should honestly be changed to the Aram map.
congrats man your special then
no difference, all regions have a lower elo that play "for fun" NA still has challenger players don't they, are you saying they aren't serious? NA just always resorts to importing Koreans and Danes over developing new talent. This is why Korea is on the downfall too, exporting players and relying on "veteran" players while ignoring new blood. The biggest different is that NA teams' management always looks for immediate gain over long term growth as a team.
i mean everyone says season 1 worlds doesnt really count. i kinda agree with it. tho fnc got the skins and the rings and the trophy so yeah we won worlds but... eeeeehhhh.
oh well.
i think the main problem of NA was always the fact that they keep importing players and kinda fire them once they do poorly.
Well, I mean with Eu winning the very first Rift Rivals(S1 Worlds), every other year Eu has 2 or so teams make it to Semi-Finals 2012(Moscow 5, CLG EU) 2013(FNC), 2015(FNC, OG), 2016(H2K), 2018(FNC, G2) why do people even say that there's a "rivalry" ?
One NA team makes it to Semifinals.......golf clap. After 7-8 years.
I agree to the notion that NA imports a LCK/EU player and kinda say ' Carry us' instead of developing real synergy with each other.
the rivalry exists because
TECHNICALLY you could be mean and say "korea was shit this worlds so eu and na beating them doesnt say much
NA gotta stop importing, i've not seen a single region without their own style, then there is NA... all TL need is to kick out Jensen and replace him with Pobelter to make a Asian "super team" (but lets not talk about how MSI became a new record in international BO5s tho)
in case my sarcasm was "subtle" TL shouldn't be importing anyone nor go for a asian superteam
There's a reason I was calling that hopeful final between C9 and IG a "battle for the region's first." It wasn't meant to demean or anything in the end though.
Yes toxic fans will go on and use this as fuel from now on until they do. But I'm just not going to write any team out if they're showing the right effort to give me trust in them. Worked this year.
There's just too many takeaways. And using the season 1 debate and the semis not good enough shtick just feels petty.
Petty YES, YES I am honestly..... NA did decent this year(1 semi-finals birth before getting their cherry popped in a 3 game stomp) At this point it isn't even NA but just C9. When will NA actually step up and do something?! Yes, GJ C9 at making it to the Semifinals for the first time but that has been done by every other region 7 years ago.
TL did fine at MSI... i guess? Still fasted international BO5 to G2 tho... RIP
The question is this now - If G2 beat SKT and we are seeing just how strong SKT is NOW......where's IG now?
well they did beat SKT at MSI in a BO5 once already... hope they kick SKTs ass again
It'll be tough as SKT were up 2-1 and just 1 game away from winning MSI + with Mata and not Effort at the time.
Overall, there's a chance SKT and G2 meet up in the Semi-finals instead of the Finals.