Cancel Rift "Rivals" for NA vs EU....... or

III BAKURYU III ·Dec 13, 2019·73 votes·16,249 views

Players don't take such seriously and it's counter productive to have such for both sides of the argument to have the event. 1.) It gives players more International EXP True. However, players don't take the event serious anyways......so..........??

It takes away a possible 1-2 week break for the players to rest and be able to recap possible patches etc.
It's not a "rivalry" Period. At this point NA has a better chance to have a "rivalry" with the LMS..............
Most players these days would rather just miss certain tournaments and events if they could. Look at this past year All-Stars - players didn't want to compete in the event and it's literally an event to shoot the s$its....it's not necessary mandatory. You think players/teams will care about RR when RR means nothing, contributes to nothing and overall, a complete joke for viewers? It's pretty much the same as LCS/LEC with the same pick/bans.
............................................................................................................... If Riot does feel the need to have Rift "Rivals" for LCS and LEC why not have the 3 lower teams participate from both regions and give them the much needed practice? I'm sure they wouldn't mind getting some extra exposure and views. To the top level teams it's a wasted event but to the lower teams it's the same as bench players in the NBA being called up to play 25-30 mins in a game instead of say, the last 3 secs.
I KNOW this won't happen because it's all about the VIEWS and $ and I 100% fully understand!!!! but at the same time it (would/could/might) help the lower NA teams for a number of reasons
Like I previously alluded to

It will give such teams/players EXP that they won't take for granted.

Many of the lower teams will actually play with a purpose(unlike the higher teams) only because the players will be playing for potential roster spots for next split. They would put their best foot forward to keep their spot or to be viewed as valuable if they have a good tournament. _Look at Mikeyeung and Phoenix 1 as an example _ from awhile back ago. All I ever heard after Rift Rivals was "MikeYeung should replace Svenskeren"

It would help develop the younger players and give them confidence, create a brand of their own, a nickname etc.

IDK Just my thoughts on the matter

Rain down the hate!

24 Comments

InfernapeDec 14, 20195 votes

They should make Rift Rivals a mid year "all star" game, where they're allowed to have fun in the game.

Nobody takes it seriously aside from the Koreans/Chinese.

III BAKURYU III Dec 14, 20193 votes

Or just remove it and have NA be a Best of 3 in which it'll give teams another 1-2 week to span out the best of 3's and such or, like I said before, just have such be a break for the players.

I've understood having All-Stars AFTER Worlds but at the same time I wanted All-Stars be BEFORE Worlds so any pressure from the players could be normal and relaxed maybe 1-2 weeks before Worlds. It'll give players/teams a scouting of certain patches, it's relaxing and it's for fun just before Worlds and having to be back to being serious.

It also doesn't help to have teams be forced to play in an mandatory event that means nothing about 2 weeks before the split ends. Riot, the casters, players, the fans, viewers everyone complains when X team comes back from middle of the split tournaments and not look the same because of such, so 2 weeks before Summer Playoffs for Worlds makes it worse. CLG(2016), TSM(2017), TL(2018) all come back AFTER the Spring Playoffs and went to MSI and overall played fine but once they came back they looked like complete jokes compared to what they performed and were late to certain patches. And that was after the split ended and not in the middle like Rift "Rivals" tends to be.

RR is just a waste of time.

III BAKURYU III Dec 14, 20192 votes

How the hell do I have 65+ upvotes and 2.3K views but no comments? lol

RyzeReworkDec 14, 20198 votes

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III BAKURYU III Dec 14, 20191 votes

I knew it. XD

DimwittDec 14, 20192 votes

I like rift rivals.

But i don't like the way it's currently handled. It has no impact and that's the problem. If that event and MSI actually meant something then maybe teams would compete. Don't turn it into amateur hour or all stars lite to solve the problem but make it count for Worlds Bracket positioning. Like the winning region gets to choose where the others land instead of the current draw system.

III BAKURYU III Dec 14, 20191 votes

Would need to elaborate and explain a bit more but I sorta like it. It could get messy and a bit chaotic tho.

DimwittDec 14, 20192 votes

The short if it is this Lets say we have our 4 major regions (LCK,LPL,EU,NA)

The 1st seeds always go A-D in group but instead of having the 2nd seed "Drawn" into the remaining set each regional Winner gets to choose where their opposition lands. So in the case of previous years RR EU would get to select which bracket NA 2nd seed goes to. They could feed us to whichever region (with a change including our own).

III BAKURYU III Dec 14, 20191 votes

Ok not as messy as I first thought.

The only and possibly last thing is about the other regions(LCK/LPL) would they be ok with NA/EU placing their opponents in a group with them? Or would the LCK/LPL Rift Rivals do the same as you just mentioned with EU vs NA?

Let's say NA beat EU last year/this year and place G2 in a group with SKT/RNG/G2 that would get even more hate than this past year where it was random but SKT/RNG/FNC was in the same group.

I like your idea don't get me wrong but at the same time I can only see people getting upset.(What else is new within the league community)

DimwittDec 14, 20192 votes

It would be the winners from each region getting to drop the 2nd seeds into whichever bracket.

In theory this gives the teams the ability to create groups of death or life if they pick wisely without leaving it up to chance. So if LCK beat LPL in 2020 RR they'd get to select which group LPL 2nd seed ended up in.

Whether they'd be okay with it, i don't know. Frankly i don't think they care since they know they have to beat the best to win anyway. With all things though when it comes to format changes i think all regions get a say so they'd have to approve it.

OHminusDec 14, 20192 votes

There's one thing wrong with your post. LMS doesn't exist anymore... actually yea, NA might have a better chance at a rivalry with a nonexistant region than EU

III BAKURYU III Dec 14, 20191 votes

I know, that's why I had the item 3070

ArammusDec 14, 20192 votes

id like to add 2 things

all stars is very soon after worlds and in pre season. really noone gives a shit
they had so many random streamers and youtubers, which 90% i dont know so this made the event even more boring for me

and about rift rivals: make it random. put all the teams in a pool and then pull from that. the only reason why na vs eu is still a thing is because the r%%%%%ed casters hype this shit up ALL THE FUCKING TIME even in interviews players say "its not really a thing" "its the casters that hype this up" etc etc. it is so fucking annoying. yeah maybe na ends up facing china and they get absolutely crushed... BUT WHO CARES!? thats still better for na. because they can learn from a region that they almost NEVER play against thats also WORLD CHAMPS!

but as we all know riot (and especially na) turn super brainless when it comes to these things and nothing will be done. i mean after worlds many ppl said na's problem is the constant swapping players out for new ones instead of working with the players they got. i thought FINALLY THE WORLD GETS IT! what does na do? half their fucking lcs is alrdy swapped. they dont learn, they dont want to learn, they can hope LoL dies soon before they end up being a wildcard region that even south latin america and japan laugh at.

III BAKURYU III Dec 14, 20191 votes

NA honestly just doesn't take International tournaments(World) seriously. To NA just getting bank $, having a job security playing video games for a living and looking like a rock star is all that matters.......winning within regions isn't on our bucket list. That's the 100% truth!

I always wanted All-Stars to be a month or so before Worlds and not after just so the players can relax a bit and get a read on the meta on stage before Worlds starts.

GonahtanuGepardiDec 14, 20192 votes

I would actually like it to be 3 bottom teams from both regions playing against each other. It's something we really never see normally and it would help see how strong the region actually is and not just the top 3. I would even be interested in watching it. They would probably put in more effort than the top teams.

III BAKURYU III Dec 14, 20191 votes

Same here. I think the lower 3 seeded teams would put in a better effort. It would help the lower teams get exposure and have them hopefully be better within their own region.

Silverhaze33Jan 27, 20201 votes

That would be a very good way to do it! The top teams would have at least a little bit of a break after dealing with non stop matches from playoffs to MSI. The bottom teams would get a little more exposure, a little bit of a narrative built for them, and they will already be rested after not participating in playoffs. I would even say make it the bottom five with a single elimination, last region standing format. To spice it up with a little bit of fun before the single elimination they could do some nemesis draft matches.

III BAKURYU III Jan 27, 20201 votes

That's the idea. Give the lower teams more exposure to a different setting(different teams= team meta, styles etc) and within the next split those lower teams could surprise the better teams and keep them on their toes.

The problem is I doubt Riot will do such because of ( $ ) and I'm not blaming a company that depends so heavily on views and such trying to make $ but until Riot actually does what's best for NORTH AMERICA!!! and not their pockets..... NA will stay as a total joke.
Sure, those lower seeded NA teams could get stomped( Clutch Gaming 2019 Worlds style) but at least it'll save NA's #1 Seed embarrassment so early in the year. Have the lower NA teams get beat up and HOPEFULLY!!!!!( Cause NA teams HATE vods and reviewing games) NA's top teams review and watch how to counter for latter tournaments(MSI and Worlds)

Look at Best of 3's - The same people who complain NA needs to go back to Best of 3's are the same ones that don't watch the games because they take 3-4 hrs or a few games go into the 40 min mark or their attention spans are low and the ratings/views take a hit. On the flip side Riot won't do such because of views and loss of $.
Will people watch Golden Glues' Golden Guardians last ranked NA team do battle? I doubt it. But it's what's best for NA.
So it's a _damned if I do, damned if I don't _ situation.

The Best of 3's will help the lower teams to sub in their rosters, give every team more games to give their starters rest, try out different team comps and players. etc.

Riot's mentality is like a band-aid at this point, they take so long to rip the band-aid off that it's getting depressing to go through it. I personally don't find the rhyme or reason to watch NA when I've seen and watched NA for the past 6 years only for NA to get bent over when it actually matters. Quick 5 min youtube highlight videos is what I'm at, at the moment because of NA's and Riot's 4head syndrome

FoxVDec 15, 20191 votes

Maybe NA and EU should have a 8 on 8 best of 3 where each team will play based on their ranked counterpart Haha stupid idea now that i think about it

III BAKURYU III Dec 15, 20191 votes

No idea is "stupid". I will say you need to explain it to me like I'm a 5 year old tho. lol

Yordle XayahDec 15, 20191 votes

Rivals should be 3rd - 6th current LCS/LEC places, not first three from a split ago.

WeexazysDec 15, 20191 votes

They should make RR a youtube/twitch showdown, makes it more casual, still allows Riot to make the big bucks and keeps it interesting. EU Streamers/Youtubers vs NA Streamers/Youtubers.

III BAKURYU III Dec 15, 20191 votes

I mean that's an idea but All-Stars was kinda 70% streamers and going forward All-Stars will more than likely be the same and other International events. I know for a fact I wouldn't watch streamer vs streamer because I have very little respect for such compared to pros.

III BAKURYU III Dec 15, 20191 votes

HA 69