XiaoWeiXiao's statement.

Basically what I'm getting from you is that if it's easy for you to do then that's how it works for everyone which would in fact be wrong.

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Did you actually read the article you linked here? Or just looked at the headline and thought "Oh yeah, this proves my theory, which I pulled out of my ass, based off of nothing - just some opinions of people who have general learning disability"? The only thing author is complainning about is pronunciation, which is far from perfect in English.

Some quotes from the article:

"Some people say that English has complicated grammatical rules, but this really isn’t the case. For example, the verb “to be” has the most forms an English verb can possible have: be, am, are, is, were, was, been, and being (i.e. 8 different forms, while most verbs have just 4).

On the other hand, French être (to be) has 40 different forms! (Just for fun: être, étant, été, suis, es, est, sommes, êtes, sont, étais, était, étions, étiez, étaient, fus, fut, fûmes, fûtes, furent, serai, seras, sera, serons, serez, seront, serait, serions, seriez, seraient, sois, soit, soyons, soyez, soient, fusse, fusses, fût, fussions, fussiez, fussent). Conjugation of verbs is much easier in English than in probably any other Indo-European language."

"Although many people complain about the English system of tenses, it is just necessary to understand what the grammatical constructions are supposed to express (without trying to directly translate everything into one’s mother tongue); for example, the phrase “I have been doing something” conveys the idea of doing something continually for a period of time in the past (and usually also continuing the action in the present). Once you understand the concept, it is much easier to apply it to any verb than in most other languages, simply because verb conjugation is much simpler."

"Similarly, English has no genders and only three different articles (the, a, an); or five, if you count the stressed variants separately. The form of articles doesn’t change according to the function of the noun in a sentence. Compare the two following sentences in English and in German: The table is big. Der Tisch ist groß. I like the colour of the table. Ich mag die Farbe des Tisches. It’s on the table. Es ist auf dem Tisch. I see the table. Ich sehe den Tisch.

In English, “the table” remains the same, whereas in German “der Tisch” (the table) changes according to the function of the noun, and this was just the pattern for masculine nouns; there’s another one for the feminine, neuter, and plural ones, giving 16 forms altogether to be remembered for what would be just “the” in English. The same applies to adjectives and other parts of speech, so English grammar can actually be considered quite rudimentary in comparison to many other languages."

It's funny how you ignore all the arguments, explaining WHY is english easier to learn than other languages (you find the very same arguments in my posts and the article you looked up - and look, I get that learning a new language whatsoever is hard for the most people, but english IS the easiest one to learn), and come back to "people I talked to said..." when you, yourself have obviously NO experience learning a foreign language. And no, majority of the world doesn't consider English a hard language to learn. A bunch of your friends is NOT a majority of the world.

Get over yourself. English is hard because as a language it lacks a single defined root, and as a result none of it works together. Every other language has one root. English is literally the only language piecemealed the way it is, and as a result there is no cohesion. You can't learn English by learning, you have to learn it by literally memorizing every word and every interaction.

Most languages you can learn patterns and bases and they will give you the basics of the language. Not with English, you have to literally learn everything one word and interaction at a time.

No part of English makes sense with any other part of English, and that's what makes it hard.

But realistically, you're only looking at it from your own perspective, which is fine... but you're an abnormality. Not the norm.

I'm just going to quote you:

Congratulations, you have a natural gift for languages AND you started off with a language(Polish) that was very close to English to begin with.

So first you're saying, that my native language is somehow close to English, and now, that English is so darn different from any other language in the world, and that makes it difficult? You're spouting nonsense, just to make your arguments look viable, even if you're contradicting yourself. Like I said, the only "hard" (though it's more like it's just dumb, not hard) thing in the english is pronunciation. Again - try to learn a foreign language on your own, instead of basing your opinion on other people's opinions (who apparently have innate learning issues themselves). That will actually make you more believable.

And by the way, I wasn't learning English by memorizing every single word and every interaction. Yes, my English isn't perfect, though my vocabulary isn't that poor either, but the point is, English - compared to every other language I was learning (including Polish) - has a very simple set of rules you need to follow. There's much more memorizing in other languages.

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I'm just going to quote you:

Congratulations, you have a natural gift for languages AND you started off with a language(Polish) that was very close to English to begin with.

So first you're saying, that my native language is somehow close to English, and now, that English is so darn different from any other language in the world, and that makes it difficult? You're spouting nonsense, just to make your arguments look viable, even if you're contradicting yourself. Like I said, the only "hard" (though it's more like it's just dumb, not hard) thing in the english is pronunciation. Again - try to learn a foreign language on your own, instead of basing your opinion on other people's opinions (who apparently have innate learning issues themselves). That will actually make you more believable.

And by the way, I wasn't learning English by memorizing every single word and every interaction. Yes, my English isn't perfect, though my vocabulary isn't that poor either, but the point is, English - compared to every other language I was learning (including Polish) - has a very simple set of rules you need to follow. There's much more memorizing in other languages.

You're assuming I don't know any other languages, despite me never having said how many languages I do or don't speak and you're judging my credibility based off of the fact that I don't go about spouting off how many languages I know. It shouldn't matter. A person doesn't need to be a cook to know good food. I don't need to be a game designer to recognize a well made game. And one doesn't need to be a linguist to know how difficult a language is.

Only you and Ale, out of everyone I've ever read on the subject, spoken to on the subject, or heard think on the subject... has ever tried to claim English was 'one of the easiest languages to learn'. Period. If you can find me even ONE of these viable sources that states English is 'not one of the hardest languages' yet is not written with the assumption that we are talking about native English speakers, then we can have a discussion. Even one. Back your claim up. You said earlier "There's no source that shows english even in top 30 hardest languages to learn" - find one of these sources that shows it not among the top and show it to me.

Now I recognize that languages are subjective, so I won't say it is 'the hardest for everyone', because clearly you two learned it very easily. That's great. But it is barely a functional language, much less an easy one. I wish I'd grown up knowing a different language because of how poorly designed English was, but no matter how well I learn other languages I still grew up with English so my mind works best in it... I'll always be stuck with it, at least in my mind.

But back up your claim.

You said earlier "There's no source that shows english even in top 30 hardest languages to learn" - find one of these sources that shows it not among the top and show it to me.

But back up your claim.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/prospero/2013/08/learning-english

There you go. English is easy but weird. Get it

The simple fact, that you compared Polish to English proves, that you're utterly clueless. Polish isn't even remotely close to English, and yet I've found that learning English was easier than learning any other language I've learned/been trying to learn. And yes, I agree. You don't have to be a great athlete, or a coach, to see if a team is good. You don't have to be a writer, to recognize if book is good or bad, or a musician, to rate a song. But you DO need proper knowledge about designing a game, if you want to be discussing the difficulties of designing a game. And the fact, that you're making so many false statements about learning English and comparing it to learning other languages (and you keep going back to "the people I talked to" argument, over and over again), just shows, that you do not posses required knowledge on the topic. You either never really tried to learn a different language, or better yet - you did try and decided it's too hard, and simply started the argument for the sake of starting the argument (though I really do hope that's not the case - you don't seem like an idiot, but that'd be both idiotic and pathetic). What I'm gettin at, I'm not gonna argue with someone about a movie THEY saw, the book THEY read, a game THEY played, or the match THEY watched, if I didn't do any of these things by myself, and just HEARD/READ about it from someone/somewhere. All I'd accomplish that way, is to make myself look like a stuck-up "know-it-all" brat. And by the way, the "official" rankings (not really official, but you probably won't find a more proper word in this case) on how hard a language is, aren't written by native English speakers that often. You'll usually find linguists from eastern/northern Europe rating these things.