So does C9 have any chance?

C9 is much better than CLG and their group is much easier than TSM's, NA still has hope.

Convincing win vs IM, convincing loss vs SKT, and 70 minute game vs. FW that really could've gone either way.

SKT will get top seed for sure, but C9 seems like they have a decent shot at 2nd.

I think C9 has the most hope. Why? Doublelift tilts more than meteos. C9 is better than CLG

They can do it, but I think even if they do, they can't compete with EDG, RNG, SSG, or SKT as well as TSM could have. The west just doesn't have the same analytical skills as the Asian teams. We can always do great the first week and surprise everyone, but then they find are weak spots and take advantage of it in week 2.

Hopefully C9 and SKT T1 are the teams that make it out of their group

They don't have a snowball's chance in hell.

C9 will make it out. IMay are communication issues and FW cant close out games even with leads. C9 solo laners still better than those 2 teams'.

With all that's happened, I don't think anyone has a clue. All I can hope for is that SKT doesn't win worlds again.

they just have to have the same performance as the did last round.

If they don't fall behind to FW like the first time, or get kabum'd by IMAY. Then yes. Hell how this worlds is going they might even beat SKT in the rematch. Honestly should get out over FW and IMAY but anything can obviously happen.

It really depends on how Jensen and Meteos performs. Syndra has been such a dominant pick, and its one of Jensen's best picks. Odds are very unlikely that he'll ever see it.

Meteos should also stay away from Lee Sin, for we all know how that went down.

I-May does have a substitution for their first game due to one of their players harassing in solo queue, and that may just destroy them. This leaves just SKT and Flash Wolves.

It will be rough, but I think they can at least take second seed. However, if they take the fight to SKT and bring on an upset, they might....MIGHT be able to possibly go for a tie breaker with them, and possibly win it.

Flash Wolves aren't a pushover team dunno why people think they are. If C9 steps it up today they can get through, but it's not going to be a pretty ascent lol. Keep it scrappy C9 we believe!

All they have to do, is beat FW and IM again, now they just have to hold on with FW in the early game and they get out of groups. IM is as bad wildcards oh wait....

more than I thought in the pick ems I put them 4th at 0-6 lol

Yes! they made it out

C9 doesn't have a chance. Why? They are an NA team and this is worlds groups week 2. Enough said.

they will pass group stage, this was, imo, the simpliest group for pick them as skt>c9>fw=im

if don't make it to quarter, something is wrong

Does it really matter? Even if C9 makes it out of groups they will lose. Along with the other teams...to SKT.

Nope.

After watching my worlds pick'em burn the last few days, it's time for my dumb pick to be useful!

SKT out, C9 first with FW 2nd!

But normally, should still be skt 1st and c9 2nd.

Yes I think they do and honestly think they will get out of it as 2nd seed.

I also believe if they get out of groups they will make semis at least as their best of 5s are notoriously good and they never give up, c9 for semis.

I think H2K will go out in qauters I hope not I really do but I think they will

I hope yes. They've always been the team I liked more in NA.

C9 has a better chance than h2k had. So i think its quite likely that c9 will get out of the groups.

C9 Jensen stop being trash Meteos stops playiing lee snog

Assuming SKT sweeps the day, C9 would need to actually 0-3 to get dropped. If SKT 2-1's this week again, C9 would still need to 0-3 to get dropped. If C9 gets a SINGLE win, they are still in contention with tiebreaker games. If SKT drops more than one game, this becomes a Group A clusterfuck all over again.