So does C9 have any chance?

Linna Excel·Oct 9, 2016·9 votes·1,673 views

With CLG and TSM bowing out at 3-3, does Cloud 9 have any hope to get out of the group stage?

43 Comments

The DeckownerOct 9, 20166 votes

C9 is much better than CLG and their group is much easier than TSM's, NA still has hope.

LandreinOct 9, 20162 votes

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C9 is much better than CLG and their group is much easier than TSM's, NA still has hope.

oh, How did I know I would find you on another post plying that argument to more people. Just like it was wrong when you thought TSM would win, it is wrong to believe C9 will win. They are going to throw just like all the rest. I even predicted how you were going to change your argument. So obvious.

The DeckownerOct 9, 20162 votes

We really need to build a wall to stop you salty EU fan bois from getting into NA.

LandreinOct 9, 20162 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Deckowner,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=ql4HEvfk,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2016-10-09T02:13:25.658+0000)

We really need to build a wall to stop you salty EU fan bois from getting into NA.

Actually, I am NA. Just because someone wont let you make shit up doesn't mean that person is from the EU. You bitched at me for saying TSM was going to throw too. How did that work out for you? All evidence shows that C9 is a failed team just like the rest of NA teams.

FYI the only surprise I have had at worlds this year was that a European team made it out of groups. I believed neither any EU nor NA teams would make it out of groups. EU teams aren't that good, and NA teams don't care enough to do so. Of course out of six teams, sometimes 1 will get lucky (H2K). Sorry that the reality is that NA teams throw worlds always, but that is the truth, and calling me European wont change your sweet disappointment tomorrow.

My only question is, are you going to come here tomorrow or are you going to be like some other people here and chicken out when your team proves once and for all that NA sucks?

The DeckownerOct 9, 20161 votes

You bitched at me for saying TSM was going to throw too.

Putting word in my mouth?

All evidence shows that C9 is a failed team just like the rest of NA teams.

evidence? where?

FYI the only surprise I have had at worlds this year was that a European team made it out of groups. I believed neither any EU nor NA teams would make it out of groups. EU teams aren't that good, and NA teams don't care enough to do so. Of course out of six teams, sometimes 1 will get lucky (H2K). Sorry that the reality is that NA teams throw worlds always, but that is the truth, and calling me European wont change your sweet disappointment tomorrow.

I called you a EU fanboy, when did I say you are european?

My only question is, are you going to come here tomorrow or are you going to be like some other people here and chicken out when your team proves once and for all that NA sucks?

Chicken out? Not everyone spends all day wondering in esport board talking nonsense lul.

MasziiOct 9, 20161 votes

Nah not easier, if anything they are lucky to be 2-1 with that FW game. I think we are going to see a timebreaker game today.

Imperial JapanOct 9, 20161 votes

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C9 is much better than CLG and their group is much easier than TSM's, NA still has hope.

Skt and Flash wolves is easy? Haha nice one

The DeckownerOct 9, 20161 votes

SKT is probably seed 1 in this group, flash wolves and imay are relatively easy and C9 can probably get seat 2.

Imperial JapanOct 9, 20161 votes

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SKT is probably seed 1 in this group, flash wolves and imay are relatively easy and C9 can probably get seat 2.

Flash wolves I wouldn't say is relatively easy but I still believe C9 will get seed 2. Would be quite the show if May were to take deer 1 or 2 lol

OrinneOct 9, 20165 votes

Convincing win vs IM, convincing loss vs SKT, and 70 minute game vs. FW that really could've gone either way.

SKT will get top seed for sure, but C9 seems like they have a decent shot at 2nd.

Yxgl222HaXOct 9, 20161 votes

its more liek a 50/50 between them and FW if their match agint fw was anything to go by. For the love of god stay away from that lee, meteos and they might have a chance

Spaceman5pffOct 10, 20161 votes

"convincing" win vs IM.

They had a massive lead early, failed to convert it into a win, then barely scraped out a victory lategame.

EDIT: I love c9, but let's not mislead ourselves here; if FW beat SKT in the last game of the night, there is a REALLY good chance C9 would have not moved on to Brackets.

OrinneOct 10, 20162 votes

I take it you're talking about the shakier game 2 with IM, though my post originally referred to game 1, where C9 definitely kept the game controlled.

Spaceman5pffOct 10, 20161 votes

Oh ok, MB. Yeah the first game was definitely better.

xJLx MCHammerOct 9, 20165 votes

I think C9 has the most hope. Why? Doublelift tilts more than meteos. C9 is better than CLG

Officer Zyra Oct 9, 20162 votes

they just have to have the same performance as the did last round.

Imperial JapanOct 9, 20161 votes

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they just have to have the same performance as the did last round.

Better* they need to adapt to KR or KR will best them

YCitizenSnipsYOct 9, 20162 votes

If they don't fall behind to FW like the first time, or get kabum'd by IMAY. Then yes. Hell how this worlds is going they might even beat SKT in the rematch. Honestly should get out over FW and IMAY but anything can obviously happen.

Electro522Oct 9, 20162 votes

It really depends on how Jensen and Meteos performs. Syndra has been such a dominant pick, and its one of Jensen's best picks. Odds are very unlikely that he'll ever see it.

Meteos should also stay away from Lee Sin, for we all know how that went down.

I-May does have a substitution for their first game due to one of their players harassing in solo queue, and that may just destroy them. This leaves just SKT and Flash Wolves.

It will be rough, but I think they can at least take second seed. However, if they take the fight to SKT and bring on an upset, they might....MIGHT be able to possibly go for a tie breaker with them, and possibly win it.

ObeifyOct 9, 20162 votes

They can do it, but I think even if they do, they can't compete with EDG, RNG, SSG, or SKT as well as TSM could have. The west just doesn't have the same analytical skills as the Asian teams. We can always do great the first week and surprise everyone, but then they find are weak spots and take advantage of it in week 2.

LandreinOct 9, 20161 votes

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They can do it, but I think even if they do, they can't compete with EDG, RNG, SSG, or SKT as well as TSM could have. The west just doesn't have the same analytical skills as the Asian teams. We can always do great the first week and surprise everyone, but then they find are weak spots and take advantage of it in week 2.

Obviously TSM couldn't compete with them.

ObeifyOct 9, 20161 votes

TSM may have been able to beat the other teams though, and I said that TSM had a better chance, not that TSM would beat them.

B00B00Oct 9, 20161 votes

I think they more jab good enough in a best of 5, I always worry about c9s best of 1s though but in 5s? Man my faith is real I think in a best of 5 format they are the best in the west.

Remember that Eu took skt to a 5 game series last year, C9 are as good or better from back then from our EU teams, in my opinion.

TSM KaijuOct 9, 20162 votes

Hopefully C9 and SKT T1 are the teams that make it out of their group

KazaLyn ShaoOct 9, 20162 votes

They don't have a snowball's chance in hell.

C9 Squeeky Oct 9, 20162 votes

C9 will make it out. IMay are communication issues and FW cant close out games even with leads. C9 solo laners still better than those 2 teams'.

B00B00Oct 9, 20161 votes

And I personally reckon sneaky will hit another gear this week and Jensen will hit his top form, cannot underestimate c9s abilities either in support and top, I'm on the fence about meteos after pmhis performances last week but I know he's better than that.

Thing is C9 shine in best of 5s if they make it out of group I think realistically those atleast reachi semis

Rio SanguinoOct 9, 20162 votes

With all that's happened, I don't think anyone has a clue. All I can hope for is that SKT doesn't win worlds again.

Kledy McKledFaceOct 9, 20161 votes

more than I thought in the pick ems I put them 4th at 0-6 lol

Imperial JapanOct 9, 20161 votes

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more than I thought in the pick ems I put them 4th at 0-6 lol

Wow okay

LandreinOct 9, 20161 votes

C9 doesn't have a chance. Why? They are an NA team and this is worlds groups week 2. Enough said.

FlemmanOct 9, 20161 votes

they will pass group stage, this was, imo, the simpliest group for pick them as skt>c9>fw=im

if don't make it to quarter, something is wrong

Well HungarianOct 9, 20161 votes

Does it really matter? Even if C9 makes it out of groups they will lose. Along with the other teams...to SKT.

CodyBear Oct 9, 20161 votes

Nope.

TakitoOct 9, 20161 votes

After watching my worlds pick'em burn the last few days, it's time for my dumb pick to be useful!

SKT out, C9 first with FW 2nd!

But normally, should still be skt 1st and c9 2nd.

B00B00Oct 9, 20161 votes

Yes I think they do and honestly think they will get out of it as 2nd seed.

I also believe if they get out of groups they will make semis at least as their best of 5s are notoriously good and they never give up, c9 for semis.

I think H2K will go out in qauters I hope not I really do but I think they will

Stars ShaperOct 9, 20161 votes

I hope yes. They've always been the team I liked more in NA.

FableBlazeOct 9, 20161 votes

C9 has a better chance than h2k had. So i think its quite likely that c9 will get out of the groups.

GULAG 4 UOct 9, 20161 votes

C9 Jensen stop being trash Meteos stops playiing lee snog

DarkRitualOct 9, 20161 votes

Assuming SKT sweeps the day, C9 would need to actually 0-3 to get dropped. If SKT 2-1's this week again, C9 would still need to 0-3 to get dropped. If C9 gets a SINGLE win, they are still in contention with tiebreaker games. If SKT drops more than one game, this becomes a Group A clusterfuck all over again.

Kal Vas FlamOct 9, 20161 votes

Flash Wolves aren't a pushover team dunno why people think they are. If C9 steps it up today they can get through, but it's not going to be a pretty ascent lol. Keep it scrappy C9 we believe!

mustardmasterOct 9, 20161 votes

All they have to do, is beat FW and IM again, now they just have to hold on with FW in the early game and they get out of groups. IM is as bad wildcards oh wait....

warpenguin555Oct 10, 20161 votes

Yes! they made it out