Who will win EU and NA Summer split?

I know im stupid but CLG

C9 and Fnatic or UoL would be my guess, always hard to tell before a split starts

na: obviously we wil have tsm c9 final. Eu: if sk loose forgiven they wont b in the conversation. so fnatic or who ever gets forgiven cause he is that good

TSM in NA for sure, maybe C9, but I don't see any competence.

But honestly, I'm TOTALLY clueless for EU, teams got really strong during this time, Forgiven on Gambit, Rekkles on Fnatic, Elements lost him, but they got Tabbz, that is another great ADC, maybe he fits better in the team, Origen came also rampaging from EU CS, xPeke will be another awesome addition to the competition.

Not to mention that Unicorns of Love and H2K are also incredible teams already, I'm not sure about SK since they no longer have Forgiven, and well, Giants and Roccat will fight for don't be the one that drops directly IMO

Eu I think that the Final will be El Classico , Fnatic are looking real good, and while Sk lost the Godgiven, but got back Candypanda, and well yeah, its a god damn Panda. He knows the team and I think that they will do well. Gambit could swing for the finals, but I think that its a long shot

Na is going to be hard. TSM just when on a rampage a rekt the spring split ( Lost like 6 games the entire split long) but got destroyed in the MSI. Camp Dyrus 4 family fun and freelo real took its tole on the team, and I wonder if now the other NA will respond. Still I hope that they do well. C9 is also huge and maybe could do a final with someone, but I really want to c how much they will be affected by the Hai change. For better or for worst, C9 played together 4 quite some time now, and a sudden change can be good or bad. Then there is Team Liquid that was AFK the entire season long but then during playoffs they were like "Well fuck it, we are here and we have Xpecial, the CLG dream wrecker, so lets knock them out in a 3 0 series" and they looked real nice. And then there is a team the is my fav, Team Impulse. I really like TSM and Dig, but Team Impulse really grew on me, so if someone asks me who is my fav team, TIP is the answer. Impact really steped up during the second round during the round robin, Rush got used to Lane swaps and got a bit of XiaoWeiXiao ( Do you even full tank Vi ?) and Adrian and Apollo ( Damn he grew into a real player, remember Wizfusion ?). And then in mid lane you have the man himself, XiaoWeiXiao. This guy is totally awesome, and no one can tell me other wise. Last pick ? Yasuo. Karthus. TF into Lb. And no matter how bad they are losing, he always gets his farm. Still I think the Final will be TSM vs C9, with TL or TIP in 3rd

Based on what Hotshot said in his response to link, I think CLG is going to slowly improve now. CLG is talented they just have a motivation / attitude issue that is being addressed. If i were hotshot I would run CLG like a Korean team for a year or two....

Na i think is is still TSM, The shut down dyrone strat does not work cause berg and sometimes turtle can carry there lane being the better and stronger laner . When you match up with other regions though turtle is definitely outclassed as an adc and berg even at his best is only an equal to pawn and Faker.

Eu I am hoping for UOL

Fnc and Tsm, but I think we will see the same teams going to semi finals.

C9 and H2K. C9 got pretty much the highest potential mid in the west (Incarnati0n), so if their shotcalling and teamwork hasn't fallen apart they'll dominate. H2K was the 2nd best in EU last split. And given their improvement rate and how I'm not confident in FNC Rekkles, I think they could top FNC.

I can't really see NA being anything other than TSM. There's a slight chance C9 will beat them but who knows how replacing Hai will go.

EU I can't call. Could be any of Fnatic, Gambit, UOL, Origen, H2K or SK. Realistically I can only see it being one of Fnatic, Gambit and Origen though. I can't really tell what SK will be like now because I am not very clued up on Forgiven vs Candypanda but I hope they contend because I like SK. H2K and UOL could contend but only if they keep growing from where they got in spring. Overall EU looks stronger now than it did in spring and that means everyone needs to raise their game to stay in the top tiers. Who knows who'll do it.

NA seems to be pretty clear C9, TSM or TL should be the top,

CLG should have problems I be surprised if they do well.

Enemy Esports Could be a surprising dark horse although.

As for EU, I that is less clear. Fnatic should do well, and maybe UoL. H2K also looks promising, But SK could pickup their game as well.

Fnatic doing well is the only prediction that I can say for sure. Everyone else looks up in the air.

I am going to say

C9 and Fnatic win.

...after MSI performance IDK how anyone in terms of EU can think any team but FNC will win EU. They have proven that they can transcend into Asian regions... and only have more room to run.